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Name

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Sorry, but Alfonso VII "of Castile" is incorrect, If you read the Chronica Adefonsi Imperatoris (there is an English version in Internet), you can see there he is called "King of Leon" about 40 times, and 0 times "King of Castile". Castile was a secundary kingdom for him: in his documents, Castile appears in the last positions in his kingdoms´list. He was King of Leon, and Emperor of Hispania (Spain). There are many confussions in the English Wikipedia about the kingdoms and dinasties in Spain, but it´s a problem in Spain also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.172.32.16 (talk) 14:50 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The question, however, is not one of contemporary usage, but of historiographical usage. He was the king of Castile, even if León was more important. It really doesn't matter what the title said, as long as the article explains it. This article cleary needs some expansion and sourcing.
Also: you should have fixed the redirects, though. Don't worry, I've fixed them now. Srnec 22:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the article on Muxia, I make the following reference: Alfonso Raimúndez (King Afonso V of Galicia and the future King Alfonso VII of León and eventually of Castile, and of Spain) Does that look reasonably accurate? Should I spell Afonso as Alfonso? --Filll 13:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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See the rationale, and related moves, at Talk:Ferdinand I of León#Requested move. Srnec (talk) 05:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 DoneDrilnoth (TC) 19:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alfonso VII of León, not Castille

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Contrary to what many people think and say, Urraca, Alfonso VI and Alfonso VII never consider themselves kings of Castille. There are no historical records of that afirmation. The first king of Castille was Sancho I, brother of Alfonso VI. When he died Alfonso never considered Castille an independent kingdom. The next king of Castille was Sancho II, son of Alfonso VII who separate Leon and Castille as two different kingdoms. This wrong information should be revised and corrected. 154.28.188.237 (talk) 14:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 March 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) JML1148 (talk | contribs) 06:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


– These are the only monarchs with the name "Alfonso" and that number. Per WP:SOVEREIGN, these titles should be moved. "Only use a territorial designation (e.g. country) when disambiguation is needed. In the case of kings, queens regnant, emperors, and empresses regnant whose common name is ambiguous and not the primary meaning, article titles are normally in the form "Monarch's first name and ordinal of Country". Examples: Philip IV of Spain; Henry I of France; Joan II of Navarre." UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 13:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.