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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:African-American gospel which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:19, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be more discussion included on discrimination African-American Muslims face? It is not really addressed in this article. Sr101skl (talk) 19:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of History Before 20th Century

The article states that the first presence of Black Muslims in the Americas was during the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, yet there is almost no information about these people aside from the fact that many converted to Christianity. The History section jumps from the time of slavery(a span of over 200 years) to when the Moorish Science Temple of America started in 1913. I feel that these skipped years are significant to the history and should be included in this article. Nasiya Tarih (talk) 03:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Who Counts as an African-American?

I added the following information to the Notable people section:

Ilhan Abdullahi Omar, politician serving as the U.S. Representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district

This data was removed on the basis that Omar was born in Somalia. However, she became a citizen in 2000. The rationale for deletion was that she wasn’t “born in the U.S.” I am in favor of putting the information back on the page because as a Somali-American, she is technically African-American. On the other hand, I recognize that there are cultural differences between native and naturalized citizens, which could affect how they practice their faith. Nevertheless, the matter of citizenship and Black American Cultural identity, especially as it relates to religious affiliation, warrants discussion. JaneNova (talk) 04:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that "African American" doesn't mean what the close arrangement of the two words suggests it means. It typically refers to an American who is descended from African slaves. Like Omar, Charlize Theron was born and raised in Africa, and she moved to the United States. That doesn't make her an African American either.

More importantly, does Omar describe herself as African American? Do the media describe her as an African American? Most African immigrants to the United States identify themselves by reference to their native countries, such as Somali American, not by the generic term African American.

Of course there are exceptions. As editors write periodically at Talk:African Americans, Barack Obama wasn't descended from Africans who had been enslaved in America; they usually argue that he shouldn't be considered the first African-American president. However, he identifies himself as African American, as do the media. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 04:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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