Talk:Academy Fight Song

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A fact from Academy Fight Song appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Rolling Stone named Mission of Burma's "Academy Fight Song" as one of the 100 greatest debut singles of all time?

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The result was: promoted by Aoidh (talk) 16:22, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Rolling Stone named Mission of Burma's "Academy Fight Song" as one of the 100 greatest debut singles of all time? Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/greatest-debut-songs-singles-990470/mission-of-burma-academy-fight-song-994494/
- ALT1: ... that in 1990, Spin called R.E.M.'s cover version of Mission of Burma's "Academy Fight Song" one of the "worst cover songs of the last 35 years"? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=otG9qgDiY1cC&pg=PA62#v=onepage&q&f=false
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Interfaith greetings in Indonesia
- Comment: I started this article in my userspace in 2014 but did not move it to the mainspace until today. There was previously an article deleted at this title, but it was about a record label of the same name, not this song. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to mainspace by Metropolitan90 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

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Adequate sourcing: - concerns
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Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Metropolitan90: Good article but what makes citation 11 and 12 reliable? Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, the statement that citations 11 and 12 are attached to is "R.E.M. released a recording of "Academy Fight Song" in 1989 on the annual Christmas single for their fan club members, as the B-side of "Good King Wenceslas", a 7" single in a limited edition of 4,500 copies." The citations in dispute are https://www.remhq.com/fanclub-singles/1989/ and http://www.svs.com/rem/discog/fan-i.php . In lieu of arguing over whether those two sources are reliable, would it be satisfactory if I cited the book Perfect Circle: The Story of R.E.M. for this sentence instead? The book is already cited in my article (citation 4). (I think the sources I cited are reliable, but I don't have proof of reliability; they are both cited in reference to this single in R.E.M. discography.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:18, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- To be clear, I already have entered Perfect Circle: The Story of R.E.M. as the replacement source for that sentence. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I would prefer the main hook to ALT1, which might be considered overly negative. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:23, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Metropolitan90: Though i guess your argument is fine, i would definitely prefer to add another source for it as well. Onegreatjoke (talk) 04:46, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've just added three more cites for this sentence, all of which support something in that sentence. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:59, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]