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A fact from Abhijatabhivamsa appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Abhijātābhivaṃsa, 12th recipient of the title of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika, could memorize and recite all the pages of the Tipiṭaka?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:10, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Abhijātābhivaṃsa was conferred as the 12th recipient of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika, for he can memorize and recite all pages of the Tipiṭaka?~~ Source: Mya Than San 2020: p. 434-5
ALT1 ... ~~that Abhijātābhivaṃsa, 12th recipient of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika, can memorize and recite all pages of the Tipiṭaka?~~ Source: Same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/U Din Kyaw Khaung
- Comment: The article appeared on ITN as RD, not blurb.

Created by Htanaungg (talk). Self-nominated at 05:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

starting review Mujinga (talk) 15:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
General eligibility:
New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
Other problems: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: thanks for an interesting submission. the hooks just need a bit of work. both ALT0 and ALT1 are both currently in present tense, but the person is dead therefore it needs to be past tense (ie could not can). both sentences could be made snappier, eg i'd prefer "made" for "conferred". lastly, "12th recipient of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika" is cited here but we all need the cite on the ALTs for "memorize and recite all pages of the Tipiṭaka" Mujinga (talk) 15:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, Mujinga. I would fix the hook as follows. Htanaungg (talk) 03:36, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... ~~that Abhijātābhivaṃsa was made as the 12th recipient of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika, for he could memorize and recite all pages of the Tipiṭaka?~~ Source: (Mya Than San 2020: p. 434-5) for "12th recipient" and (The Mirror 2007) for "memorize and recite all pages of the Tipiṭaka"

Hi Htanaungg I'm guessing you are not a native english speaker because some readability issues remain with the present ALTs, so I'll simply propose a new ALT and ask for a second reviewer, please correct any errors I've introduced. There's also an issue whether it should be 12th or twelfth, for me the guidance is unclear on that.

ALT3 ... that Abhijātābhivaṃsa became the 12th Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika because he could memorize and recite all the pages of the Tipiṭaka?
ALT4 ... that Abhijātābhivaṃsa became the twelfth Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika because he could memorize and recite all the pages of the Tipiṭaka?

Mujinga (talk) 11:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content of these hooks is not present in the article; it says that he "recit[ed] the Canon without being prompted more than five times in a day", and it later says, without connection, that he "was offered the title of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika by the Burmese government". If he was offered this title because of his memorization of this text, then the article should make that clear. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 16:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bryanrutherford0: how about ALT5, then? Htanaungg (talk) 10:54, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5... that Abhijātābhivaṃsa, 12th recipient of the title of Tipiṭakadhara Dhammabhaṇḍāgārika, could memorize and recite all the pages of the Tipiṭaka?

ALT5 is supported by the citations in the article. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mujinga, are you able to approve ALT5? BlueMoonset (talk) 00:57, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BlueMoonset is that not up to Bryan Rutherford now ? Mujinga (talk) 11:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I approve the nomination, with hook ALT5. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 12:32, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]