Talk:Aakar Patel

A fact from Aakar Patel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after activist Aakar Patel was prevented from travelling abroad, a court asked the director of India's Central Bureau of Investigation to apologise?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aakar Patel.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 08:20, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that after activist Aakar Patel was stopped from travelling abroad, a Delhi Court asked the Director of India's Central Bureau of Investigation to apologise to him? Source:"Court directs CBI to withdraw lookout notice against ex-Amnesty India head, and apologise". ThePrint. 7 April 2022. Retrieved 7 April 2022.Bureau, The Hindu (7 April 2022). "CBI told to apologise to Aakar Patel for stopping travel". The Hindu. Retrieved 7 April 2022. {{cite news}}: |last1= has generic name (help) "Delhi Court Asks CBI to Apologise to Aakar Patel, Withdraw Lookout Circular". The Wire. 7 April 2022.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chibuzor Nwakanma

Moved to mainspace by Venkat TL (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 7 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Note that the nominator has retired from Wikipedia, so another editor will need to adopt this if the nomination is to proceed and be reviewed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:36, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Although an adoption isn't needed if no issues are found during review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:29, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Articles passes, though it could use some copyediting for flow. --evrik ^(talk) 14:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC) Offering an Alt for the promoter:[reply]

Alt0a ... that after activist Aakar Patel was stopped from travelling abroad, a court asked the director of India's Central Bureau of Investigation to apologise?

--evrik ^(talk) 14:45, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- @Evrik: was it the director or the agency asked to apologise? hook should reflect the article; also, could it please be cited inline before promotion? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 02:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron:, it was the director, and it is cited. --evrik ^(talk) 03:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- - - @Evrik: Fair enough; I mean directly at the end of the sentence, in the article. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:06, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done --evrik ^(talk) 03:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

I will like to merge the articles on the two books with this article. A single decent page etc. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The subject is a notable rights activist, the books are independently notable. Feel free to add content but I am against redirecting any of the 3 articles. Venkat TL (talk) 10:56, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge The books arent bestsellers, secondly they are more of a reflection of the author's ideological beliefs so I think they can better explain the context within Aakar Patel's stub. Amitized (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all book reviews of both books are positive about the book, zero critical reviews. Doesnt it sound like sock puppetry? Amitized (talk) 11:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Amitized The price of Modi years is currently listed on the bestseller page of Amazon even after six months. It was #1 few weeks back. So I am not sure what you are talking about. The book passes Wikipedia's notability criteria for books. Venkat TL (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Half-baked or unbaked

This page pretends to be a biography page, but in reality it is just a current news item with a shell added around it. There is a section called "Activism", which says nothing more than the fact that he was an Amnesty director. Neither is there any information about the case against him, for which he was stopped from leaving the country. All drama and no substance, as far as I can see. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3 what is your proposal other than defacing the page? Venkat TL (talk) 07:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody needs to do the work to make it a proper page. It is not the "face" that matters. The substance. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is your proposal, what do you want to do with it? what do you want to add? Please provide ref. What balance is off? His witchhunting is the government retaliating for his activism, what section do you want to move it to? Venkat TL (talk) 08:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Activism is a perfectly reasonable section to the topic, but it needs to be filled in. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rome was not built in a day. This article will not reach FA. Lack of sourcing is the issue here. The point of my reply and this thread is to understand what can be done to fix the glaring problem in this article. If you are not able to point them or suggest solutions, then I will remove the tag. Venkat TL (talk) 20:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for admitting the problem. And no thanks or threatening to remove the tag. You have been through an WP:ARE cycle once already.

You are allowed to ask for help if you can't figure out how to do something. But don't combine it with vitriole.

As for suggestions, try searching for "Aakar Patel biography" and "Aakar Patel Amnesty". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Look who is threatening. Venkat TL (talk) 18:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Venkat TL, but then why name unbuilt city as Rome before building it? Kautilya3 has a valid point. Amitized (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kautilya3 You have added a tag that says, "This section may be unbalanced towards certain viewpoints. Which and how to fix it? If your problem is article expansion as you have explained above, then you are using the wrong tag. Either use the correct one or remove thi, or suggest way to fix the balance. --Venkat TL (talk) 16:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can fix it by adding content about his activism. How many times do I need to tell you that? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please share the sources if you have. Regardless, this is not a viewpoint issue. Venkat TL (talk) 17:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded based on whatever was available, if you believe something is still lacking please share sources as nothing can be added without a source. Venkat TL (talk) 11:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Still wildly unbalanced. Two sentences to cover everything between 2002 and 2019, but three huge paragraphs for the events of the last month. This is also called WP:RECENTISM. The intervening paragraph on the supposed "case" doesn't even state what the case is, when it was filed, and what its status is. If I were to retitle the page as "Aakar Patel's passport", I wouldn't be far off the mark. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]