Talk:A (Ayumi Hamasaki EP)

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Date	Process	Result
December 3, 2016	Good article nominee	Listed
February 1, 2017	Good article reassessment	Delisted

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Nomenclature

Can this recording really be called a "single" if it has 14 tracks? Even if the 14 tracks are mostly remixes of the 4 main songs, this recording is more fairly listed as an EP rather than a single. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Lately, more and more ‘singles’ are released that contain more songs. First two, now often four or more. In what sense of the word these are singles escapes me. Shinobu (talk) 14:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do think this should be regarded as a single, as it has always been officially regarded as one by Avex. There isn't technically a time limit on singles, just an actual song limit. 22:41, 17 January 2010 Bulldoggie101

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:19, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A (EP) → A (Ayumi Hamasaki album) – At 75 minutes with 11 songs this 1999 Japanese CD is longer than A (Agnetha Fältskog album), A (Cass McCombs album), A (Jimmy Raney album), A (Jethro Tull album). And the Recording Industry Association of Japan lists "A" not as a single but as an album (footnote in article: "浜崎　あゆみ "A" エイベックス 1999.8.11"). In ictu oculi (talk) 20:17, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. "A (EP)" should be repointed to the disambiguation page -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 07:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Red Slash 20:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Discussions that were held at Talk:H (EP)#Requested move should probably be considered. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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GA delisted

I have delisted this article, as it should never have been promoted in the state it was (and is) in. Some problems which are obvious on a first cursory reading

"The tracks written by Hamasaki herself, while production was handled by long-time collaborator Max Matsuura." isn't a sentence
"[...]some praised the production of the original songs in compared to the album versions."
" It is Hamasaki's highest selling single, and additionally within Japan music history." What "in Japan music history"? This seems to sugget that it is the best-selling single in Japanese music history, which is false.
"However, a separate review for the A at the same publication was mixed. " The A?
"an examples of her best work"
"A is the 78th single with the highest first week sales, a record that still holds as of July 2016." Um, what? You seem to mean that it has, as of July 2016, the 78th highest first-week sales for a Japanese single? Or that it was the 78th single to debut at #1? Or something else?
"It stayed at number one of three non-consecutive weeks," ?
"It resulted as the highest selling EP–single by any artist at the time, and was the highest selling single by a female artist." Doesn't seem to be supported by the source[1]
"each original recording were performed "

These are only some errors which were easy to spot, a more thorough reading may well result in additional problems. Fram (talk) 12:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. The current title seems consistent with (and is mentioned in) WP:EPDAB. I'm not sure about the mentioned A (EP) – the naming convention is too dense to read – but then, there's the A (single album) by Big Bang. No such user (talk) 12:43, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A (Ayumi Hamasaki EP) → A (Ayumi Hamasaki album) – Consensus title per RM in 2014, was moved without discussion in 2016. 162 etc. (talk) 16:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 14:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:08, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc. and Ahecht: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:13, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a long discussion in the footnotes of the article itself, added two years after that RM, as to why it was moved to "EP". There should probably be a discussion about whether to move it back to A (EP) or A (Ayumi Hamasaki album). --Ahecht (TALK
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I agree that a discussion is a good idea. In the meantime, however, the article should be at the stable title determined by the RM. 162 etc. (talk) 22:51, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral it may in fact be an EP despite the length. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose in official statements ([[2][3]) and third party sources ([4][5][6][7]), the release is described as a single, usually as a maxi single. Describing the release as an album would be WP:OR, not representative of the information found in sources, and applying Western concepts of what a musical release in an improper context. An equivalent concept would be single albums for South Korean musicians. --Prosperosity (talk) 22:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just noticed that this recording is specifically mentioned as an example of an EP at WP:ALBUMDAB. The naming convention may need to be updated based on the result of this RM. 162 etc. (talk) 05:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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