Talk:2023–24 X2O Badkamers Trophy

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On 24 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trofee to 2023–24 X2O Badkamers Trophy. The result of the discussion was moved.

Title of the page

What was the reason for renaming the page into 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trofee? First point is: now it is switched to a Dutch title for the event. Should we really be using Trofee instead of Trophy in the title? Using Trofee is not compatible with past editions like 2016–17 Cyclo-cross DVV Trophy where Trophy was used.

Second point: also the new name uses the event sponsor's name. Some similar wikipedia pages do not use the official sponsor name although others seem to do. For example 2023–24 Belgian Pro League which is not called 2023–24 Jupiler Pro League. Similarly 2023–24 Cyclo-cross Superprestige does not use the sponsor's name. Note that we can and should use a redirect for the name that includes sponsor's name. Hg03u (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Every prior edition uses the sponsor name, so either this one should follow those or they will all have to be renamed. As for the local name, many race articles do use the local language, eg. Giro and Vuelta, so I see no issue with this. It is never commonly referred to as "Cyclo-cross trophy" in English sources at the least, so this may be confusing to most people who are not familiar with the local name excluding the sponsor. Seacactus 13 (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point and I agree we should include the sponsor name in this case to be consistent with prior editions.

But regarding Trofee vs Trophy it would be the same argument: the prior editions use Trophy in the title. Maybe more importantly, the inline references in the Major results section of individual riders (like here: Eli Iserbyt) use X²O Badkamers Trophy. So what do you think about moving the page into 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trophy, keeping the sponsor name but using the English Trophy? Hg03u (talk) 19:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That seems fine to me, and would be less work than doing it the other way around. Seacactus 13 (talk) 01:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Comments suggest X2O with a non-superscript 2. Moving it to 2023–24 X2O Badkamers Trophy (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trofee → 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trophy – See the discussion here on this talk page. Hg03u (talk) 17:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have an opinion on Trofee or not – just commenting to say that the superscript ² seems like the sort of stylization which is typically not followed (Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks). My suggestion then is X2O. Adumbrativus (talk) 00:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: No consensus yet ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move to 2023–24 X2O Badkamers Trophy, per WP:UE. Theparties (talk) 06:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.