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Change second sentence

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The article's second sentence currently reads It featured a total of 31 tropical or subtropical cyclones, with all but one cyclone became a named storm. I would normally immediately change the word "became" to "becoming" as a grammar issue, but I've had some problems with WP:BOLD lately, so here I am. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:56, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done – Grammar corrected. Drdpw (talk) 11:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Storm tracks deleted

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Can someone please re-add the tracks for the storms? The storm infoboxes now don’t look good because someone decided to delete the tracks. VehicleandWeatherEnthusiast2022 (talk) 00:00, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Trimming

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As this article was tagged for being rather lengthy for readers, I have proposed a strategy for trimming this article. I believe as opposed to shortening the meteorological history, I believe the impacts of each storm should be removed unless… A) They are notable storms such as "Laura" or "Sally." or B) They don’t have an article nor meet the requirements for one.

It may also be necessitated that storms that did not get article for lack of fatalities or monetary damage, but still had some land impact, to get articles. These include Edouard, Gonzalo, and Vicky. Let me know any suggestions/concerns or alternate strategies you may have. Thank you!IrishSurfer21 (talk) 02:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IrishSurfer21 (talk · contribs) - I think you may have removed too much. I would rather have some limited impacts included rather than have the entire met history. I'm working through and tweaking how much info is in each section. For instance, you reverted my rewrite for Arthur, which mentioned the (limited) impacts. But your edit to Cristobal even removed the impacts which were fairly substantial. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits to Arthur removed a bit too much as well. I feel like Arthur was perfectly fine beforehand honestly. I think the tag is focusing more on the Greek Alphabet storms and Sally, which are all very overfluffed. I don’t think most of the storms before Josephine need to be changed now.IrishSurfer21 (talk) 23:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Especially Zeta, I am surprised this passed GA with that much overfluffing of a section. IrishSurfer21 (talk) 23:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well you removed all of the impacts, that's an issue. Every season article has some sort of impact. When I rewrote the Arthur section, I had a brief summary of the met history and the impacts. You reverted that and instead it focuses on the first special weather outlook, which isn't nearly as important as the fact of when the storm actually formed (and thus began the season). Similarly, the fact that recon identified the winds isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, not when the article is supposed to be streamlined. Each storm still needs to get the right amount of information, so I wholly disagree with your approach on focusing more on the met history instead of on impacts. Impacts are not "fluff". ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2020 tropical / subtropical storm formation records
Storm
number
New record Old record
Name Date formed Name Date formed
03 Cristobal June 2, 2020 Colin June 5, 2016
05 Edouard* July 6, 2020 Emily July 11, 2005
06 Fay July 9, 2020 Franklin July 21, 2005
07 Gonzalo July 22, 2020 Gert July 24, 2005
08 Hanna July 24, 2020 Harvey August 3, 2005
09 Isaias July 30, 2020 Irene August 7, 2005
10 Josephine August 13, 2020 Jose August 22, 2005
11 Kyle August 14, 2020 Katrina August 24, 2005
12 Laura August 21, 2020 Luis August 29, 1995
13 Marco August 22, 2020 Maria September 2, 2005
Lee September 2, 2011
14 Nana September 1, 2020 Nate September 5, 2005
15 Omar September 1, 2020 Ophelia September 7, 2005
16 Paulette September 7, 2020 Philippe September 17, 2005
17 Rene September 7, 2020 Rita September 18, 2005
18 Sally September 12, 2020 Stan October 2, 2005
19 Teddy September 14, 2020 "Azores" October 4, 2005
20 Vicky September 14, 2020 Tammy October 5, 2005
21 Alpha September 17, 2020 Vince October 8, 2005
22 Wilfred September 17, 2020 Wilma October 17, 2005
23 Beta September 18, 2020 Alpha October 22, 2005
24 Gamma October 2, 2020 Beta October 27, 2005
25 Delta October 5, 2020 Gamma November 15, 2005
26 Epsilon October 19, 2020 Delta November 22, 2005
27 Zeta October 25, 2020 Epsilon November 29, 2005
28 Eta November 1, 2020 Zeta December 30, 2005
29 Theta November 10, 2020 Earliest formation by virtue of
being the first of that number
30 Iota November 13, 2020
Source:[1]
*Record has since been broken.

Alright, here's an update. I condensed all of the storm sections, while the article has come down a bit, it's still too long. The season summary could be shortened more. I removed the table, because I felt like most of the records were set during the 2005 season, and it doesn't add enough as a visual representation of the season. Especially when you consider the quote that part of the reason for there being so many storms is improvements in technology. So I think a less-is-more situation is better for the article, as it helps cut down on the size significantly. Still, the article is over 10,000 words, which is on the long side. If the predictions can be trimmed a bit, and the lead trimmed up a bit, you could get it under 10,000 words. I don't really consider the storm names or effects as part of the word count, so the article is getting close to the point of being manageable. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still think Eta is a bit lengthy and the Central America impact can be condensed more. In a season with this many storms it is going to be difficult to get it to a very low word count.IrishSurfer21 (talk) 00:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also don’t think COVID is necessary to note in this article, as it’s already mentioned numerous times in storm articles.IrishSurfer21 (talk) 00:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
COVID should get a mention somewhere, as that is a big factor for anything 2020-related. The article is now under 10,000 words, so I think it's at a manageable length. Excluding infoboxes and captions, the article is under 9,000 words. Therefore I removed the tag saying the article is too long. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Andrea Thompson; Amanda Montañez (December 1, 2020). "In 2020, Record-Breaking Hurricanes Arrived Early—and Often". Scientific American. Archived from the original on May 16, 2021. Retrieved June 4, 2021.