Talk:1979 Pacific hurricane season

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Review: January 22, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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Carlos and Guillermo did affect land. HurricaneSpin (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC). Also look at the satellite of carlos [1] Hurricane Typhoon Cyclone 20:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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- In 1979 Pacific hurricane season on 2011-06-24 05:15:32, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 05:15, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merger with Hurricane enrique

Probably best to remove Hurricane enrique from the merger, it's failed the notability test, and appears to be a copy & paste from this article. Abcjake (talk) 07:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt anyone from the project knew about the AFC creation. I also don't think Enrique would ever pass the notability test for anything other than the season article. I also note that it was a random IP who created the submission during a random activity spree in August 2016. I would suggest that Draft:Hurricane Barbara is also looked at carefully and am pinging @Yellow Evan: who is our expert on the basin.Jason Rees (talk) 16:22, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This, along with Barbara 83, should remain unpublished. Everything that could be written is already in the season section. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 19:45, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Hurricane Andres (1979) here?

I see the article is at GAN, and rightfully so - @TropicalAnalystwx13: did a great job on this (considering the storms didn't do all that much). The only storm of note was Hurricane Andres (1979), which itself has a very short article. The Andres article even says - "Because the area the storm struck was sparsely populated, there were no reports major damage or injuries." This article is on the short side, and could easily accommodate a three-paragraph section for Andres. Just wanted to discuss this before a GA review. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I did a newspaper search for the system and did not find any information which isn't already mentioned. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:14, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yellow Evan: - as author, any thoughts? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support merging into the main article per proposal. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 23:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with a merger unfortunately. Probably should have pulled the trigger before the GAN tbh. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1979 Pacific hurricane season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 23:45, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one. --Usernameunique (talk) 23:45, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

What is the Central Pacific basin?

Added into a note. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So—from clicking on the two links in the new note and trying to eyeball where those vertical lines are—the significant thing is that the systems in 1979 stayed relatively close to the North American coast, and didn't make it into the western Pacific? --Usernameunique (talk) 03:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique, this is correct on its face. The main point of the sentence though is that no tropical cyclones occurred between that 140W and International Date Line region (Central Pacific)--in the general vicinity of Hawaii. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 04:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, I'm struggling to understand the first sentence. What made the season rare—the strength of the systems, or the location?

The lack of storms. Hopefully it's clearer now. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"on record" should be changed to "as of 2021". See WP:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Relative time references and WP:As of.

Tacked on. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The information in the second sentence seems more descriptive of the season than the information in the first. I'd rearrange accordingly.

I think the notability of the first statistic gives it leeway to go first. For example, 2020 had a record 30 storms in the Atlantic, and stating that first is more descriptive, but it's probably better to lead with the fact it was the most active season on record first. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See what you think about my edit. I think it makes sense to start with a summary of the season and then its significance. Indeed, labelling it an "inactive season" sets up the fact that it had a notable lack of tropical cyclones. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me! TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 20:07, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Had any systems developed within the Central Pacific, they were most likely to form between June 1 and November 30. Those dates conventionally delimit the period during each year when most tropical cyclones occur. — This feels like footnote material.

Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No casualties or damage were reported. — What about the fishermen who were killed?

Good catch. Reworded. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

(hPa; 27.7 inHg) — Not included in the section on the storm.

Those are display options within the templates, not much I can do on my end. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Andres

One of many ships encountered the storm after this time — Intentionally?
I doubt it. Do you think this needs to be reworked? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Dolores

What does "disturbed weather" mean?
Just an area of active thunderstorms. It's common terminology in the hurricane world. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is "Steered" the right word?
Yes. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What does it mean in this context? --Usernameunique (talk) 06:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"by 18:00 UTC" — "by" or "at"?
At. Changed these out. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Enrique

Is "coincident" the right word?
Yes, I changed it out anyway though. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Enrique had been moving toward the northwest — Why "had been"?
Changed. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Guillermo

What does "disturbed weather" mean?
See above. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Ignacio

Whose air force? And link it.
Linked. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Any damage to report?
No damage this year. A very inactive and non-consequential season. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Storm names

What's the point of the gray? If the text didn't say "Names that were not assigned are marked in gray", I probably wouldn't have noticed it; it's practically indistinguishable from the black.
It's just common practice within the project. I can bring it up with fellow editors if you want that. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Season effects

What does "Potential tropical cyclones" mean?
It's a new category used to refer to systems that are being warned on with a high chance of becoming a tropical cyclone in the near future. This isn't applicable in old years, so I've removed it. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

The institutional authors can take links.
I believe all the refs I have control under in this article are linked (the hurricane database link is a template). TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review, Usernameunique. Please let me know if I need to change anything else! TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TropicalAnalystwx13, a few more comments above (particularly regarding the lead). --Usernameunique (talk) 07:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique, all taken care of! :) TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 02:33, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TropicalAnalystwx13, taking a look, but there's still an outstanding comment ("What does it mean in this context?"). --Usernameunique (talk) 03:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TropicalAnalystwx13, reminder about that outstanding comment. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique, I went ahead and reworded it. :) TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 20:07, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, TropicalAnalystwx13, passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 20:27, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]