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2008 discussion

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It was me who suggested to start this page, and to redirect Samir_Kuntar page here, however this suggestion was "misunderstood". I suggested to describe the event in which that one man one event became notable for, thus the murdering of 4 years old Einat_Haran. The article here is describing this event that is widely known as the most brutal terror attack in the history of Israel by members of a group that is designated as a terror organization in WP by all Western countries. This attempt to hide the facts or twist them is another poor action from George, I do not understand how he was accepted in WP Lebanon, as he has been doing nothing but abusing this position to spread a confusion in WP. So if any admin does read this message, please forward a request to remove him from that group.On.Elpeleg (talk) 05:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of nonsense is this? I created a most basic, factually accurate (to the best of my knowledge) article that wasn't in any way an attempt to hide or twist anything, and was only meant as a stub for a longer article. Watch the personal attacks. ← George [talk] 12:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name?

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Apart from the obvious need of copyediting the present text, what is the source for the name? Is it Nasser (as named after Gamal Abdul Nasser) or is it simply Nasr (as in 'victory')? --Soman (talk) 13:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding this article

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I am working on expanding this article per discussion in: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Einat Haran. Tkalisky (talk) 17:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK my friends. I worked hard to get all the facts of this article right. The main sources in reconstructiong the story were:

  • The Chen Kots-Bar article: "The girl screamed. I don't remember anything else" (The Guardian)[1]
  • "The Achille Lauro Hijacking: Lessons in the Politics and Prejudice of Terrorism" By Michael K. Bohn, Published by Brassey's, 2004, ISBN 1574887793, 9781574887792, 235 pages, Page 56,
  • The Yediot Aharonot article translated on the Israeli MFA website [2]

I supplied sources on almost every sentence. If anyone thinks the facts are wrong - please check the sources first - including books. Discussion here is welcome. I will revert hasty/arbitrary changes that will be done without looking deeply into the sources. With friendship, Tkalisky (talk) 09:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to take a look at your changes and the article itself in more detail when I have more time. In general it looks good, and I'm glad to see that the article has been expanded. A cursory glance reveals some spelling and grammar issues, but those should be easy to solve. Also, there is a bit of a "one-sidedness" neutrality problem in the current prose, due in large part to an over-reliance on too few sources. The article is using only two sources for over half the total references in the entire article, one of which is from an Israeli tabloid newspaper translated by the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (the Aharonot article). ← George [talk] 13:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quite interesting new information

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See http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1078849.html . I don't have time to put it in the article. In short, a very senior police officer and psychologist says he is convinced that Kuntar did not kill the Harans. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

time of day

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What time of day did the attack occur? During daylight hours or at night?

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In all conscience

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Change it back all you like, these people can only be described at terrorists.

So some Wikipedia officials ('Denisarona' and 'Gatoclass') really think these people are 'militants'? So the word 'terrorist' is somehow too sensitive, is it? Let's just take a look here at the immorality of this fudge. Look at the heinous crimes these people committed. Ask yourselves, are these terrorist acts? There is only one answer. In all conscience. Shame on you for bowdlerlising this. So these Wikipedia 'officials', Denisarona and Gatoclass, are changing my edits to make these people appear to be what they are not. These criminals are NOT 'moderates', they are, for sure, with no shadow of a doubt, terrorists. Just read the details of their crimes.

Contradiction

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Please correct one small error in the article (I don't have the permission):

"During the attack they killed three Israelis, including a father and two of his young children. Another child was accidentally suffocated in efforts to hide her from the attackers."

As there were four people killed (one police man plus a father and his two children, one of which accidentally by their mother), this should be either only the first sentence or something like this:

"During the attack they killed three Israelis, including a father and one of his young children. Another child was accidentally suffocated in efforts to hide her from the attackers."


Thank you

77.22.5.32 (talk) 20:03, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the opening para is terribly written. It should read:
"During the attack they killed three Israelis, including a father and one of his young daughters. His other daughter was accidentally suffocated in efforts to hide her from the attackers."
Since it should also say that the "other child" was also his daughter. Crelb (talk) 06:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]