Talk:169th Street station (IND Queens Boulevard Line)
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[edit]Why do we continue to list the old subway operating companies on these NYC Subway wiki pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.130.124 (talk) 03:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Truflip99 (talk · contribs) 20:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Starting review. --Truflip99 (talk) 20:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
History
[edit]- "As a terminal, 169th Street station was considered inefficient due to being a local station." -- could you clarify on what this means?
Done and clarified this on other articles as well, like Parsons Boulevard station. epicgenius (talk) 15:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- 169th Street wikilink leads to same article, needs to be omitted
Done
- Terminal station wikilink needs to be on first instance
Done
- Omit wikilink to 179th Street
Done
- "At that time,
this station
was considered to be the most congested due to the numerous bus lines that either terminated just outside or at the nearby 165th Street Bus Terminal." -- clarify which stationDone
- "The full-time and part-time booths at the station were switched since over half of the remaining riders using the station lived closer to 169th Street. Before the change, most riders came from the Bus Terminal via the 168th Street entrance. The 168th Street booth was made part-time, and the 169th Street booth was made full-time." -- could you clarify on what any of this means?
Done It means that the locations of the booths were swapped. The full-time booth at 168th Street was relocated to 169th Street, and vice versa for the part-time booth. epicgenius (talk) 15:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Station layout
[edit]- "There are two fare control areas at either end" -- of what?
Refs
[edit]- Ref 24 needs url or needs to be a different template
Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:46, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 33 is not sufficient to support the sentence
@Epicgenius:, @Kew Gardens 613: -- Hi all. Just following up on this GA review. There are a couple more pending items above. And I am gonna add my final thoughts below. --Truflip99 (talk) 20:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 13-15 -- overkill, two refs should suffice. Ref 14 additionally needs to be split.
- Regarding the combined refs, these should be fine per WP:CITEBUNDLE. epicgenius (talk) 15:18, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Efforts to alleviate train congestion led to plans to extend the Queens Boulevard Line...
-- precede this withIn (year), efforts...
Done. epicgenius (talk) 15:18, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
These facilities would allow for the operation of express and local service to the station.
-- which stn is being referred to here?- There are earlier instances of E and F wikilinks in prose
The opening of the Archer Avenue Line was expected to reduce rush hour ridership at this station from 12,912 to 6,058.
-- who expected?The locations of the station's full-time and part-time booths were switched, since more than half of the remaining riders lived closer to the 169th Street entrance.
-- when?
epicgenius, Kew Gardens 613: Thanks for addressing these. My remaining issue is this reference -- it doesn't sufficiently support the prose it is referencing. Is there no alternative out there for this? --Truflip99 (talk) 15:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- I can hide this info for now, since I can't find a ref for this. epicgenius (talk) 15:30, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, we'll get this one passed :) --Truflip99 (talk) 15:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: Technically, I do have a source for this, but I do not think I can use it as a reference without getting someone in big trouble (i.e. someone gave someone else access to an internal document, and the second person gave me access to it, and the document was not supposed to be made public). Hiding it seems like the prudent thing to do. Thanks so much for your help with this GA. I have been very busy with schoolwork. @Truflip99: Thank you once again for being an amazing reviewer and for taking this article up.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Will try get more knocked out in the next few weeks as I am stuck at home with cabin fever. The both of you, please stay safe during these eventful times. --Truflip99 (talk) 17:43, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: Technically, I do have a source for this, but I do not think I can use it as a reference without getting someone in big trouble (i.e. someone gave someone else access to an internal document, and the second person gave me access to it, and the document was not supposed to be made public). Hiding it seems like the prudent thing to do. Thanks so much for your help with this GA. I have been very busy with schoolwork. @Truflip99: Thank you once again for being an amazing reviewer and for taking this article up.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, we'll get this one passed :) --Truflip99 (talk) 15:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- ... that before the opening of a new subway line, passengers at the 169th Street station had to wait just to get to the platform during rush hours? Source: NY Times 1987
- ALT1:... that passengers at the 169th Street station had to wait to get to the platform, prior to the opening of a new subway line? Source: NY Times 1987
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carole Baskin
- Comment: I'll think of more hooks later
Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC).
Article is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 24 March, nominated on 28 March) and article is within policy
The hook is well-cited and in the article, but I'm not sure that it's at all interesting. Having to queue to get into a station isn't that unusual- I can think of at least three London Underground stations where this is the case
QPQ done
Epicgenius I don't see how the proposed hook is interesting, as it's not that unusual to queue to get into platforms or stations. Please can you suggest a better hook? I have no other issues with the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Joseph2302: Thanks for the review. I had found the original hooks interesting because like in most former Independent Subway stations, the mezzanine is huge by comparison - it was even once proposed for use as a parking garage. But I can see where you are coming from since London tube stations are much smaller than NYC Subway stations. How about these? epicgenius (talk) 19:45, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that part of the underground 169th Street station's mezzanine was once proposed for conversion into a parking lot? LIC Star-Journal
- ALT3:... that another subway station was built because the 169th Street station was deemed an unsatisfactory terminal? LI Daily Press
- @Joseph2302: Thanks for the review. I had found the original hooks interesting because like in most former Independent Subway stations, the mezzanine is huge by comparison - it was even once proposed for use as a parking garage. But I can see where you are coming from since London tube stations are much smaller than NYC Subway stations. How about these? epicgenius (talk) 19:45, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes ALT2 or ALT3 look fine to me. If the promoter once to use ALT0 or ALT1, then I have no strong objections either. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
E via Hillside
[edit]@Cards84664 and Epicgenius: Can one of you help add the Es to 179th to the infobox next station template? Thanks. Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Kew Gardens 613, I tried to format it so the E via Hillside only shows up for the next stop eastbound/northbound. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
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