Talk:Óscar Pérez (footballer, born 1981)

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Requested move 28 September 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Moved per consensus below. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 01:27, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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– WP:COMMONAME for both footballers is just "Óscar Pérez" as per almost all references and external links, they don't use their maternal surnames professionally. Disambiguate to standard for footballers. Ortizesp (talk) 13:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 18:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Giant Snowman 18:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) points 2b and 2c, nationalities and positions should be used for players ~~of the same nationality~~ who are close in age, but play in different positions in different nations, because they are more likely to be known by searchers and are more conclusive. DrKay (talk) 13:03, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DrKay: - actually, it says "use the most conclusive of the following steps". In practice, that is year of birth, then nationality, then position - that is order of fluidity/certainty. Giant Snowman 16:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This follow NFOOTY convention, most pages go by birth year.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Disambiguating: "Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it)". Years of birth are only used when there is no other reasonable disambiguator, such as when people of the same name have the same profession and nationality. DrKay (talk) 12:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As per WP:NCSP, nationality or birth year can both be used as disambiguators for footballers.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:58, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amended. DrKay (talk) 18:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.