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Requested move 25 February 2015
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The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline (talk) 14:58, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
"Weird Al" Yankovic → Weird Al Yankovic – Quotation marks aren't used when someone's nickname is used in the article title – Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:59, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Steel1943 (talk) 05:53, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- The subject of this article is much too notable for this move request to not be controversial. I'm essentially neutral on this, but the article has been sitting at its current title for quite a while, so I think the move needs to be put up for discussion so consensus can dictate and enforce the title move, or lack thereof. Steel1943 (talk) 05:53, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. Quoting "Weird Al" fits the common name approach. Otherwise, moving to Weird Al Yankovic makes it look like "Weird" is part of his given name, which it is not. --MASEM (t) 06:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. The original poster neglected to mention any reason whatsoever for this idea. Specifically, that would be the quoting of any Wikipedia policies which require the proposed change, and which trump WP:COMMON as Masem said and which trump MOS:TMRULES which says "a significant majority of reliable sources that are independent of the subject consistently include the special character when discussing the subject" where that significant majority is actually 100%, because of the subject's exhaustive establishment of his trademark or the equivalent thereof throughout his entire career. I am typically against WP:COMMON in favor of WP:NATURAL but in this case, they are effectively the same. As is demonstrated here and on Masem's talk page, the original poster just seems willfully oblivious to process, policy, and even discussion after it's too late; and to be generally in a playpen mentality of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS where we must now provide tutorial links and then clean up the mess.
@Steel1943: How has this not been moved from "uncontroversial"? And has this honestly never been raised and resolved before?— Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 12:28, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Per a discussion on my talk page, this article has never been at the title Weird Al Yankovic. (There was a bit of page moving vandalism, which probably resulted in this article's move protection, but the moves never specifically consisted of the proposed title.) In addition, I looked through the talk page archives, and I was not able to find any formal move discussions, which essentially means that this article has been sitting at its current title for over a decade. (By the way, Smuckola, I'm not sure what you mean when you asked "How has this not been moved from "uncontroversial"?". Also, your ping to me didn't work since the edit where I was mentioned didn't include your signature.) Steel1943 (talk) 15:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Steel1943: I see that you did remove it from "uncontroversial" status here, thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 19:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Smuckola: Ah, I understand now. Thanks. (By the way, that ping worked!) Steel1943 (talk) 19:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Steel1943: I see that you did remove it from "uncontroversial" status here, thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 19:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support. No need for quote marks. Masem's comment, "moving to Weird Al Yankovic makes it look like "Weird" is part of his given name", above is not true and irrelevant in any case. We include many other nicknames in article titles without surrounding them with quote marks. Big Bill Edwards, not "Big Bill" Edwards, for instance, or Long John Baldry, not "Long John" Baldry. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- At least with Long John Baldry, that is how the name appears on his albums (no quotes); with Weird Al, his name is always quotes on his albums. That gives a strong argument to stay with the Common Name convention - that the quoted version is how his name regularly appears, while the unquoted version is how Baldry's name appears in common. (While Edwards is not an article, CN application shows that that should be at the quoted version, as that is how it regularly appears in news sources). --MASEM (t) 20:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's what I cited above, from MOS:TMRULES, aside from WP:COMMON. The examples given by Necrothesp are not deliberately and universally established trademarks, and thus are defaulting to WP:NATURAL and WP:COMMON. This is not a matter of consensus, but of literacy. That's why the rules require discussion first, which the original poster blew past. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 20:34, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was checking to see if there was any previous discussion on the matter of nicknames but CN is clearly the overriding principle here - the use of quotes depends on a case-by-case, and definitely for Weird Al, the quotes are part of his common name. --MASEM (t) 20:39, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, as the original poster just established here. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 20:55, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Either way, I would not consider that a motion to withdraw this discussion. I myself am actually curious to see the outcome of this discussion, so I'd rather it play out anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Steel1943: huh? The discussion has been decisively answered by performing the first step, which is the basic lookup of policy. What further outcome do you think there could possibly be but an apology for wasting everyone's time and thus withdrawal, or just expiry? I mean I honestly did consider tapping my contacts to get Al to show up and cast his vote for President or whatever. I mean since you two want a personal playpen, and since you won't vote according to the obvious facts and what you know, then that's all that's missing along those lines. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 21:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Smuckola: I see one "support" opinion here; that's all I need to convince me that more of those may exist, regardless of already-presented policy statements. Either way, I still have no opinion either way, and probably never will. Also, if there is essentially a WP:SNOW oppose here, then this discussion would also serve as a precedent to oppose the same move request in the future, which I honestly feel as though this title needs since this has now been brought up once, and possibly could again. Steel1943 (talk) 21:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, alrighty then! Well said. And your passive declaration of your position on it without voting, is noted. ^_^ Truth does exist, even on Wikipedia. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 21:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Right, I don't support it, but I don't oppose it either. I just believe that this move request truly is controversial, and needs to be discussed. But take it as you will; for the most part, my comments will only have a bearing on the closer's decision on this discussion, and as far as I can see, I really haven't said anything other that I oppose an early close of this discussion unless it is determined to be a blatant WP:SNOW oppose. Steel1943 (talk) 21:43, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, alrighty then! Well said. And your passive declaration of your position on it without voting, is noted. ^_^ Truth does exist, even on Wikipedia. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 21:19, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Smuckola: I see one "support" opinion here; that's all I need to convince me that more of those may exist, regardless of already-presented policy statements. Either way, I still have no opinion either way, and probably never will. Also, if there is essentially a WP:SNOW oppose here, then this discussion would also serve as a precedent to oppose the same move request in the future, which I honestly feel as though this title needs since this has now been brought up once, and possibly could again. Steel1943 (talk) 21:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Steel1943: huh? The discussion has been decisively answered by performing the first step, which is the basic lookup of policy. What further outcome do you think there could possibly be but an apology for wasting everyone's time and thus withdrawal, or just expiry? I mean I honestly did consider tapping my contacts to get Al to show up and cast his vote for President or whatever. I mean since you two want a personal playpen, and since you won't vote according to the obvious facts and what you know, then that's all that's missing along those lines. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 21:08, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Either way, I would not consider that a motion to withdraw this discussion. I myself am actually curious to see the outcome of this discussion, so I'd rather it play out anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yep, as the original poster just established here. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 20:55, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was checking to see if there was any previous discussion on the matter of nicknames but CN is clearly the overriding principle here - the use of quotes depends on a case-by-case, and definitely for Weird Al, the quotes are part of his common name. --MASEM (t) 20:39, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- That's what I cited above, from MOS:TMRULES, aside from WP:COMMON. The examples given by Necrothesp are not deliberately and universally established trademarks, and thus are defaulting to WP:NATURAL and WP:COMMON. This is not a matter of consensus, but of literacy. That's why the rules require discussion first, which the original poster blew past. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 20:34, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- At least with Long John Baldry, that is how the name appears on his albums (no quotes); with Weird Al, his name is always quotes on his albums. That gives a strong argument to stay with the Common Name convention - that the quoted version is how his name regularly appears, while the unquoted version is how Baldry's name appears in common. (While Edwards is not an article, CN application shows that that should be at the quoted version, as that is how it regularly appears in news sources). --MASEM (t) 20:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose per COMMONNAME, Personally I see no issues with having quotation marks at all –Davey2010Talk 05:14, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:UCN and WP:NAME#Article title format (Do not enclose titles in quotes...[except] when the quotation marks are part of a name or title). When credited, he is most commonly referred to as "“Weird Al” Yankovic" such as on album covers and in Billboard. Cf. previous RM discussions at Talk:Evelyn "Champagne" King and Talk:Robert John "Mutt" Lange. — AjaxSmack 06:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- It may also be worth mentioning that WP:TITLEFORMAT says that "Crocodile" Dundee is appropriate, which seems roughly similar to "Weird Al" Yankovic. In addition to the two examples mentioned above by AjaxSmack, other evidence that the current name may be adequate for a WP:STAGENAME can be found in the prior discussions at Talk:George "Porky" Andrews, Talk:Edward D. Jones (about Edward D. "Ted" Jones), Talk:Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Talk:Lee "Scratch" Perry, and Talk:Clarence "Frogman" Henry. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:54, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose His name is Alfred Yankovic, not Weird Al. Weird is not his name, it is a nickname. Look at every single one of his album covers. [1] [2] [3] [4] 5 [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] He is ONLY credited as "Weird Al" Yankovic. That is his professional identity, period. Nevermore27 (talk) 04:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem, AjaxSmack, Nevermore27. "Weird Al" Yankovic is how he is credited, and Weird is not part of his given name. Egsan Bacon (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change "Yankovic because the first guest editor for Mad Magazine for an issue that will be published in April 2015." to "Yankovic will become the first guest editor for Mad Magazine for an issue that will be published in April of 2015." I ask this change be made because not only does the sentence not make sense, but the sentence is grammatically incorrect. ThePhantom13 (talk) 22:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Done, thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 22:42, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Graduation Year
In the early life section should his graduation year be 1975, not 1965? I doubt he graduated from high school at the age of 6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.69.244.28 (talk) 01:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- The year is not in the citation given at the end of that sentence, but I've changed it based on a common sense reading of those liner notes. Elizium23 (talk) 05:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Weird Al: The Book
ISBN 1419704354. As the article is currently structured, there's no good place to list this. Mapsax (talk) 00:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- It should be used as a reference and not so much as a part of the prose, but certainly can be included as a general reference on the list. --MASEM (t) 05:52, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure that much can be culled from it for the article since it looks like most of what's in the book is already in the article. Really it's not much more than what's already been out there except that it goes as far as Alpocalypse and there's a new anecdote or two. It should at least go in a bibliography section but there isn't one because the books already mentioned from what I noticed are either in the "Writing" section or, in the case of The Authorized Al, mentioned with The Compleat Al. Mapsax (talk) 11:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
- [Edit] OK, it's there now, to clarify the issue of Al's high school graduation year discussed just before this section. However, Al's books are now in three different sections of the article. There should still be a proper bibliography added, distinguishing between Al as author and/or subject, but I'd rather someone with more substantial and/or numerous edits to the article do it. Mapsax (talk) 16:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Generally we want to keep a distinction between the books he wrote (the two children's books) which should be called out in the article, and anything that is more biographical in nature such as the above book, the Authorized Al,etc. , which should be limited to being reference material, unless there's something of not about Al's interaction with the creation of those books (offhand, which I don't know). --MASEM (t) 16:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ok, just rechecking, the Authorized Al being a companion book to the Compleat Al, which is something Al participated in creating, is probably fine where it is in the band section, but probably should also be relisted as a general ref alongside with the book above. (At the moment I forget how to do this to have it as a standalone line, and then being able to still use it as a reference). --MASEM (t) 17:04, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Way too long
We are making an encyclopedia here with summaries, not a collection of all known information about "Weird Al." Surely most of this information is at his website, yes? Or a fansite? I was looking some specific information but this article is overwhelming. It needs to be cut by about half.
Congratulations to the people who worked on this, the references and citations are wonderful. It's close to being perfect, just way too long. Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors (talk) 05:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- If something seems to give undue praise to its subject, it would probably save more time to edit it on-sight than simply put a template there. I know that's just one of the three issues you pointed out, but I'm assuming you read through the article enough to know it suffered from this particular problem... during which process you probably could have edited for it. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 22:59, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Ethnicity
Frankie Yankovic was Slovenian, not Yugoslavian. Therefore, Weird Al is most likely of Slovenian heritage also. The difference between Slovenian and Yugoslavian is that those Slovenians (like my grandma and grandpa) who came over to America before 1918 were not Yugoslavian because the countries had not combined yet.
D. Reid — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.32.41.20 (talk) 02:39, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- They aren't related (and that is covered in the article). Check the archives for a bunch more on this topic. --Michael Greiner 20:44, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
actually, the article says "not related directly,' meaning Al is not Frankie's descendant...indirect or collateral relationship, thru a brother of one of Al's Yankovic ancestors, is not ruled out...if was meant to be, it should have been...2601:18E:C201:612A:7ACA:39FF:FEB2:EFCB (talk) 01:06, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- In a source actually used in the article, Spin states that there is no relation period. I'm amending the article to reflect that. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 18:00, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Yankovic is so Slovene origin. Yeah right. Be serious. Janković is Serb rooted surname. Like Jelena Janković. 109.93.55.153 (talk) 23:54, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the "Web Media" section, I'd like to add a reference to the "Funny Or Die" original short that parodies the movie (originally a book) "American Psycho". This short film stars Weird Al Yankovic and Huey Lewis (of Huey Lewis and the News).http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/7x3r I have no idea if I'm doing this correctly. QuailAndQuasar (talk) 00:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Done in my next edit. Definitely verifible and noted by third parties. --MASEM (t) 00:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Wallykazam
He also voices Wizard Jeff again in 'Going Coconuts' which debuted today if someone could add that. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 22:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Add guest star on 'Meet the Goldbergs'
Weird Al guest starred in an episode of 'Meet the Goldbergs' where he plays himself. This should be included in several of the sections of the page. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/The_Goldbergs_(2013_TV_series)#Notable_guest_stars — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:14F:4501:34BF:A0A4:BC1:E622:146F (talk) 16:42, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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Weird Al asks original artists to license his songs because his covers DO NOT fall under the fair use doctrine under Campbell v. Acuff. Parody only works as a fair use defense if the artist is commenting on the original work itself: "The heart of any parodist's claim to quote from existing material is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's work" (Campbell v. Acuff). Most of Weird Al's songs have nothing to do with the underlying originals: "If, on the contrary, the commentary has no critical bearing on the substance or style of the original composition, which the alleged infringer merely uses to get attention or to avoid the drudgery in working up something fresh, the claim to fairness in borrowing from another's work diminishes accordingly." Lets talk about this (talk) 01:51, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Not done This sounds like original research; we have a number of sources that claim that Yankovic can parody without any copyright issues, so you'd need other sources that directly state this in regards to Yankovic's work, not your own analysis. --MASEM (t) 03:06, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Part of "Refused Parodies" section is incorrect
In the part "Yankovic related one story where, before the American Music Awards where he and Prince were assigned to sit in the same row, he got a telegram from Prince's lawyers, demanding he not make eye contact with the artist" but the source itself says the telegraph was sent from Prince's management team, not his lawyers. This is confusing as it makes it seem like a legal obligation, but it was definitely not.
Josefbud (talk) 21:30, 22 April 2016 (UTC)JosefBud
Already done (above) —Musdan77 (talk) 00:10, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Prince info irrelevant
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I followed a link here about Prince's odd interactions with Weird Al and found the line "Yankovic related one story where, before the American Music Awards where he and Prince were assigned to sit in the same row, he got a telegram from Prince's lawyers, demanding he not make eye contact with the artist." The content has a reference, but if you read the referenced article you find that A) it was Prince's "management company" not his lawyers and B) Weird Al believes that everyone seated near Prince got the same telegram. I hate to say it, but this line should probably be removed. (Or at least the "Lawyers" should be replaced by "management company.")
Done - partly at least. It is well-cited, and highlights the quirkiness of Prince, which is what that short paragraph is about. I did change the verbiage to management company since that is absolutely what the source says. Didn't mention others getting the same message, because that is irrelevant in this article, also because it was a pretty non-specific, "others", not "everyone seated near Prince". Take care. Onel5969 TT me 00:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think the point (b) that the unnamed (unsigned) poster was trying to make is that because Yankovic wasn't the only one who got the message, that means it's not really notable/relevant for this article. And I would agree that the "line should probably be removed". —Musdan77 (talk) 00:10, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
If it's relevant, it is to Prince, not Yankovic really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.182.5 (talk) 01:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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In October 2016, Yankovic responded to the third debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton with "Bad Hombres, Nasty Women".[80][81]
Please change it to add that it was a collaboration with The Gregory Brothers.
Can be confirmed by the sources and also by BAD HOMBRES, NASTY WOMEN (ft. "Weird Al" Yankovic) -- YouTube, 20 October 2016.
Thank you ! 69.50.70.9 (talk) 00:56, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Done Yes, this is confirmed, and I've fixed the wording around a bit too. --MASEM (t) 01:56, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you ! 69.50.70.9 (talk) 03:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Yugoslav/Croatian
His father's parents were Matt YANKOVICH and Mary E. BRAJ. Matt, born in Yugoslavia, immigrated 1904 to the USA, Mary, born in Croatia, immigrated 1909 to the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.174.189 (talk) 19:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
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Age says 57, should be 58. 73.221.156.140 (talk) 17:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Already done appears as 58 right now, which looks to be correct. –72 (talk) 17:45, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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The last paragraph of the lede says "He has also made guest appearances and voice acting roles on many television shows and video web content, in addition to starring in Al TV specials on MTV." People don't make voice acting roles. Could you change it to "appearances and filled voice?" 2601:5C6:8301:32B0:80D9:A443:E55B:11C8 (talk) 00:12, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER
Like a surgeon was mentioned and he had a well memoried cameo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:191:5FA0:B008:9EA1:21ED:E754 (talk) 11:04, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
U2 Becomes Fourth Artist to Notch a Top 40 Hit in Each Decade Since the Eighties
@Masem:, I'll leave it up to you, but I believe you were incorrect in reverting my edit. Please see the following article, which states that U2 joined the other three. My apologies for not citing it as a source, I'm not a very advanced editor. :-) https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7776244/u2-joins-michael-jackson-madonna-weird-al-yankovic-top-40-hot-100-hits-four-decades Joebedford (talk) 19:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, that does confirm it, but one issue we'll have is what's called "future proofing", in that going further in time, there will very likely be more and more artists that meet that. We probably need to say as of a given time, when Al got it, there was only 2 others. U2 and others may get it, but we don't have to worry about adding each one. --Masem (t) 20:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
What a pompous article
Full of self-importance, signifying not much. Seriously, this article takes itself far too seriously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.102.199.73 (talk) 13:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Why? 77.69.34.203 (talk) 11:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Yugoslav?
Was his dad Serb, Croat or what? Makes a difference in the Balkans, tho not much in the US. 77.69.34.203 (talk) 11:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Al on Teen Titans Go! "Weird Al" Yankovic | Teen Titans Go! Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia https://teen-titans-go.fandom.com/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.29.96.7 (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Add his second appearance on Guest Grumps, as linked here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ06yMergxo— Preceding unsigned comment added by Crankune (talk • contribs) 11:07, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think that should be included for the same format as the other one. Iggy (Swan) 20:45, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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2012 Weird Al appears in "Yankoheit 27" .... read more about it here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1734567/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm this is not included in his Filmography and I believe it should be. I will leave this simple addition to someone else with more Wiki editing experience than my self. 98.161.200.58 (talk) 08:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- I'm kinda thinking he needs a page for his filmography since he doesn't have one. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 13:55, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 16:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Filmography request edit: Johnny Bravo
In Johnny Bravo Episode "Johnny Makeover", Yankovic appears as himself. Proof: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1125569/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjgRq7WsE4
Please add this to the filmography section. 107.202.57.20 (talk) 23:26, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
See Also section
Given that this section is currently empty, the section title should be removed. Alternately, it would be relevant to include a link to Homer and Jethro as they were an antecedent to Yankovic's song-parody format. 136.159.160.5 (talk) 21:30, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
update age
today is October 23, 2019, Weird Al's 60th birthday. His age needs to be updated to 60 years old. ˜˜˜˜10/23/19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjennings22 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Page needed to be purged, it should be updated now. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:28, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- The issue has been resolved. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 02:48, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
sources
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/weird-al-seriously-gives-a-talented-musician-his-due/2020/03/25/5e10c6d6-69e4-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html — Fourthords | =Λ= | 18:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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So in Television you forgot to put Milo Murphy's Law in it David Glen Foerster.Jr (talk) 02:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Already done This is already mentioned in the section "Animation and voice work". Maka (talk · contribs) 02:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- It is also listed in the section "List of voice performances on television". General Ization Talk 02:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Portugal. The Man as associated act?
I added them and it got reverted. Are the remixes and recent collaboration enough to list them in his sidebar?--Aresef (talk) 17:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- In my opinion, yes, as this is well sourced in the article. --Jonie148 (talk) 18:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not enough. See guide here; https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I did. He has remixed two of their songs, recorded one with them and has appeared live with them a couple of times. So the relationship goes beyond "Who's Gonna Stop Me."--Aresef (talk) 20:29, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Nina's birthdate
Al's daughter Nina was born February 11th, 2003 according to this Twitter post. [1] Tyler Michael Mannix (talk) 06:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Nick Yankovic's Silver Star.
Under "Early Life" The page mentions Nick Yankovic's two Purple Hearts but not his Silver Star, which is higher in order of precedence, and thus more prestigious than the Purple Hearts. I propose the edit that the words "a Silver Star and" immediately precede the words, "two Purple Hearts."
For citations, see this history of his combat unit's service in WW2 that specifically describes the awarding of the medal, and the actions for which it was awarded. [1]
For further evidence, see this photograph of all of Nick Yankovic's medals on Weird Al's instagram post. [2]
Thank you.
2603:6011:2D21:4200:396B:2A33:C5A1:6235 (talk) 23:40, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
References
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Add comedian to occupation and description. 107.77.232.196 (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Not done: Satirist is already included. Melmann 10:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Hidden comment
I removed a hidden comment pleading with would-be vandals, because (1) let's not give them ideas about what to do, and (2) the suggested edit hasn't happened in 500 recent edits. Elizium23 (talk) 05:36, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Does Portugal. The Man meet the requirements to be an associated act?
Al has worked with PTM on multiple occasions, remixing two songs and appearing on a third.--Aresef (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion
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Walk of fame price.
How much is the cost of the star? The article says fans raised 40k to pay for it but then the price was raised to 25k so it didn't go ahead. 202.14.33.236 (talk) 04:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Page for current tour was vandalized, then deleted
Weird Al's most recent tour is "The_Unfortunate_Return_of_the_Ridiculously_Self-Indulgent,_Ill-Advised_Vanity_Tour", which unfortunately was recently deleted. The previous link now redirects here. Being as there are pages for many of his previous tours it does not make sense to not have a page for his current tour. In the history of the deleted page you can find there were people who were trying to "improve" the page by deleting information from it, were they also responsible for the page being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:446:C200:3A45:E27B:58F4:7933:ACB6 (talk) 11:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @HorrorLover555:, who redirected the article, and had done some work on the article before that. HorrorLover555 can speak for themself, but from what I see the article about the tour did not point to the multiple, independant, reliable sources that are required in an article about a tour. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:51, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello. The reason for its redirect was given in accordance in WP:NTOUR regarding the article's notability, as it did not have enough reliable sources. Prior to its redirect, for the general improvements I was making, I was following the Wikipedia guidelines of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Concerts#Style, and moving the "Encore Cover Songs" to the setlist section as it is a bit off to have the encore songs in the table, and should be in the setlist section instead of the tour dates. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just going to add in, you are assuming bad faith on my part regarding the article when accusing me of vandalism which I have not done. To clear this up, I am a Weird Al fan myself, but that does not stop me from complying with the guidelines for Wikipedia. Regarding your argument that because other tour articles exist, it has to as well, I'm going to have to ask you to look at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. HorrorLover555 (talk) 19:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Whoever made the edit that removed information from the table said in their justification only that they were 'improving' the article, when they did not move the information to any other part of it. If the article went away only for lack of other external sources, why was that not brought up before the article was removed? Clearly multiple people were working on the article, and then it was removed without warning. Why was there no discussion prior to this article being removed? 2601:446:C200:3A45:BDF0:9966:B340:7D0B (talk) 01:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- The article was not removed, I assure you. It was simply redirected, and there were already maintenance tags present prior to when it was redirected that it "may not" meet the notability guideline for music. And it was general improvements as I was going to put the Encore songs into the Setlist section after and was working on it. It does not belong on the tour dates table, as it is through the guidelines of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Concerts#Style that it is for date, city, country, venue and opening act - so if in the case the article does return, the encore songs should be in the Setlist section and not in the Tour dates section. Regarding how vague I was on that, it was a mistake on my end at that time, and I do apologize for that. However as I said before, it does not dissuade me from complying with the guidelines on Wikipedia. HorrorLover555 (talk) 02:03, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and brought back the article, updating it with new sources and to ensure that it stays in the guidelines of Wikipedia. HorrorLover555 (talk) 03:40, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Just going to add in, you are assuming bad faith on my part regarding the article when accusing me of vandalism which I have not done. To clear this up, I am a Weird Al fan myself, but that does not stop me from complying with the guidelines for Wikipedia. Regarding your argument that because other tour articles exist, it has to as well, I'm going to have to ask you to look at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. HorrorLover555 (talk) 19:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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Change Patton Oswald to Rainn Wilson as the actor playing Dr. Demento in Weird: The Al Yankovic Story (2022). See https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17076046 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMK8FUVCk (movie trailer on YouTube) as sources. AaronMarten (talk) 04:43, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Not done: Oswald was in the Funny or Die movie trailer, per the CNN source. This may be different than the person cast for the feature film. RudolfRed (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Milo Murphy's Law inclusion
Weird Al voice acted Milo Murphy in Milo Murphy's Law. I would add it, but I'm not sure I"m good enough, also I can't right now. So anyone who can please add it.
Quantum684 (talk) 20:51, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- @684pika Hi! Do you have a source for this? AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 22:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- um, i don't, but i just noticed it was already added, sorry. Quantum684 (talk) 12:41, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- @684pika no problem! Happy editing. AdmiralAckbar1977 (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- um, i don't, but i just noticed it was already added, sorry. Quantum684 (talk) 12:41, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Wrong graduation year published
According to history and yearbook evidence posted online at www.classmates.com. Weird Al graduated as valedictorian of the Class of 1976 from Lynwood High School in Lynwood, CA. According to the birthdate published he was 16 when he graduated in 1976 (not what is posted 1975).
He is listed by name Alfred Yankovic as well as in pictures on pages 147, 151, 152,153, 236, 242, 243, 247.
Accolade, 1976, Volume XXV Published by the yearbook staff of Lynwood High School, Lynwood, California. Editor Joyce Martinez. Associate Editor Barbara Hoeschein. Advisers Ron Avery (Finance) Bill Sprague (Production) Icecreamsocialcats (talk) 15:42, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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From a very reliable source, my father-in-law went to high school at Lynwood High and graduated in 1975. In his yearbook it shows Weird Al as class of 1976. In the 1976 it shows him as the valedictorian. Also, Weird Al stated that he was 16 when he graduated. If he was born in October of 1959 that would mean he was only 15 years old (when the 1975 school year ended). Please make the correction to reflect that Weird Al graduation from Lynwood High in 1976 and NOT 1975. Topgatorcf (talk) 14:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Not done We need published reliable sources, not word-of-mouth. --Masem (t) 14:59, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Accolade, 1975, Volume XXV Published by the yearbook staff of Lynwood High, editor Joyce Martinez.
LOOK IT UP. I would send the photo but it won’t allow me to on this message. Topgatorcf (talk) 15:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Accolade 1976 it shows him as valedictorian Topgatorcf (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Accolade 1975 is volume 24 Topgatorcf (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Accolade 1976 is volume 25, look it up. Topgatorcf (talk) 15:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is that we have Al's official biography that says 1975, which takes precedence over the use of yearbooks to try to prove that. --Masem (t) 15:57, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- I will note I am seeing 1976 in a few other places (it comes up in the Behind the Music from VH1 clip, and from the Lynnwood Foundation). I'm looking for a better source. Masem (t) 16:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- I have found a source that I am happy to use 1976 as the date, corrobated with video and images from the yearbook. Somehow, the book is wrong in that year. Masem (t) 16:08, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- I will note I am seeing 1976 in a few other places (it comes up in the Behind the Music from VH1 clip, and from the Lynnwood Foundation). I'm looking for a better source. Masem (t) 16:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Weird Film / Al Actor
In the latest movie, Weird Al was played by Daniel Radcliffe and NOT by Aaron Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:fea8:9624:ba00:143d:a111:87f0:43da (talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what the point of this comment is. The article doesn't claim otherwise, and it's pretty easily verifyable. Darkage7[Talk] 17:48, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Weird: The Al Yankovic Story
Rainn Wilson plays the role of Dr. Demento, not Patton Oswalt. 45.47.103.54 (talk) 13:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- In the original short, Oswalt does. In the new film, it is Wilson Masem (t) 14:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
The Wild 2006 x Weird Al Yankovic My Wild Parody
Starset / My Demons & The Wild 202.165.87.180 (talk) 12:02, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
List
Would it be possible for the Wikipage to include a list of the parodied song titles alongside the original song titles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk) 10:49, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are looking for List of songs recorded by "Weird Al" Yankovic, which is linked in the discography section. Darkage7[Talk] 16:27, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
Madonna movie actress
Olivia Wilde doesn't play Madonna, Evan Rachel Wood does. 2600:8803:748E:AE00:C11F:B38B:B26D:CA28 (talk) 03:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Wilde plays her in the original Funny or Die short trailer. --Masem (t) 03:13, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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In section 5.1.2 please change the actor referenced for Dr. Demento from Patton Oswalt to Rainn Wilson [1] 170.199.134.226 (talk) 01:33, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Done Cullen328 (talk) 01:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- I reverted my own edit. That content is about the 2010 trailer for an imaginary film. Twelve years later, the film was finally made. Cullen328 (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
References
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Change Yankovic (played by Aaron Paul) to Yankovic (played by Daniel Radcliffe) 81.79.110.45 (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Not done: as it's correct Hyphenation Expert (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
"Blind date" -> "a blind date"
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
In the third paragraph under Personal Life, "Blind date" should not be capitalized, and should have an article before it.
- Why it should be changed:
Proper English for a non-proper noun that is not at the beginning of a sentence. As written, it looks like a title.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):
76.14.104.80 (talk) 17:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
References
Madonna Actress
is not Olivia Wilde. It's Evan Rachel Wood. but I can't edit. No account. I'm sure someone can though. 2603:6010:9305:7B00:95C:5388:35C8:9 (talk) 12:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- The original short had Wilde as Madonna, the film had Wood as her. This is properly stated in the same paragraph about both actresses. Masem (t) 12:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Best Male Video
Smells like Nirvana was in the 1992 MTV "Best Male Video" nominees but Nirvana's video was not, it was in nominees for "Best Video" 70.187.141.56 (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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Why is his wife and marriage not listed in the top section, but is in the early life section? 172.56.113.56 (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- The lead of any Wikipedia article is intended as a summary of the most important information about a topic (explaining why the topic is notable), and should be fairly short. Most of the time, the personal lives of people with Wikipedia articles are not what make them notable, and so they are not usually included in the lead if there is a lot of other information that needs to be conveyed, as there is in the case of this article. I assume you are referring to the Personal life section, I can't see anything about his marriage in the Early life section. If not, please let me know. Tollens (talk) 19:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Weird al concert location on day of parents death
citation 89, 90 are incorrect. As for the concert on the day of weird Al parents death is located in Mankato, Minnesota. Not Appleton, Wisconsin. I know this because I was there. But also for citation purposes:
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=28420 Jillianmcp (talk) 04:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)