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TerraCyprus, it seems that by adding Category:Society and social science templates by country to Category:Templates by country, you are duplicating existing Category:Country templates by topic. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Andrybak, templates by country are not Country templates. I removed the latter now. TerraCyprus (talk) 17:22, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TerraCyprus, there seems to be a misunderstanding of established category tree structure. "Society and social science" is one of the topics, used throughout the whole tree of template categories, starting with Category:Society and social science templates. As such, Category:Society and social science templates by country must be categorized under some category named "... by topic". And it was categorized into Category:Country templates by topic for seven years since 2013. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrybak, repeat: "templates by country are not Country templates", wrong since 2013 if it is that way since then. TerraCyprus (talk) 17:42, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TerraCyprus, please elaborate what you mean by this. Per description at the top of Category:Country templates: Templates relating to present-day sovereign countries, it seems that "templates by country" are very much "Country templates", that's why I have added the new category to Category:Country templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:47, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Andrybak:

  • Templates by country‎ (207 C)
  • Wikipedia templates by namespace‎ (14 C)
  • Wikipedia templates by style‎ (18 C)
  • Wikipedia templates by task‎ (19 C)
  • Wikipedia templates by topic‎ (15 C)

Country templates relate to countries, OK, but the templates inside Templates by country relate to many different things and are there only because the "also" relate somehow to a country. But a New York City template is not a country template. It is wrong to categorize templates 'grouped' by country (New York City, Los Angeles fall under United States) into Country templates. Country templates refer to the level of country. TerraCyprus (talk) 17:57, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TerraCyprus, is there anything that's stopping us from utilizing categorization system to group cities under their respective countries? Example: Category:United States contains level of country categories and pages, like article United States, Portal:United States, Category:Economy of the United States, and Category:Geography of the United States. The Category:United States also includes Category:States of the United States, which refer to level of US state. —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:06, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrybak, Category:United States templates, NYC, LA templates are there. Category:Country templates contains e.g. Demonym country - that is not "by country", it can be used for any country. "by country" is just a kind of "by location/place". TerraCyprus (talk) 18:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrybak, "by topic" ... a country can also be a topic, so should all the "by country/location" be inside "by topic"? Time can also be a topic. But Category:History of the United States has: History of the United States by location‎ (15 C) History of the United States by period‎ (32 C) History of the United States by topic‎ (32 C, 70 P). So period and location are placed on the same level as "topic". Topic is very unclear. TerraCyprus (talk) 18:27, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TerraCyprus, how about creating a new Category:Templates by country by topic to make it more clear? —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Or renaming Category:Country templates by topic to Category:Templates by country by topic? —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:29, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrybak rename. And I created Category:Wikipedia templates by location on the same level as Category:Wikipedia templates by topic. Maybe "by time" could also be on the top level, but I don't know that part of the template space so well. TerraCyprus (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Andrybak, please have a look what the standard is, is it "by country by topic" or "by country and topic"? And what first, topic or country? You solve it. :-) TerraCyprus (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
CFD: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 22 § Category:Country templates by topic. —⁠andrybak (talk) 18:44, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]