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The following people from the inaugural class of fellows do not seem to have Wikipedia articles yet. If the links turn blue, it may mean either that a new article has been created and should be added to this category, or that someone else has the same name and that the link here should be disambiguated. ~~(One possible exception is Jacques Hurtubise, currently a redirect to a Quebecois magazine; I haven't determined whether the JH who founded it is the same as the mathematician.)~~ As articles on these subjects get filled in, please remove them from this list. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove the name after the article on the name was added to Category:Fellows of the American Mathematical Society. -- Taku (talk) 22:44, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also consider adding at least three references, One the subject's CV, the note

In 2012, s/he became a Fellow of the American Mathematical Society.<ref>[http://www.ams.org/profession/fellows-list List of Fellows of the American Mathematical Society]</ref>

and {{MathGenealogy}}. Solomon 7968 09:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why three? If we just cite the official list at the AMS, and the name and affiliation both match, is there any room for doubt of the correctness of the listing? Or, if you mean, when creating an article it should have three references, I think that is a good rule of thumb. The mathematics genealogy project (and our {{mathgenealogy}} template) can be helpful for providing one of them. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I mean the second. Ideally all articles should have more than 3 references but, hey, 3 is a good starter.

And an observation, this list is up for more than an year and so far only 4 people have edited it. Also there is the (semi-active) Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/missing mathematicians. Creating biographies of mathematicians don't necessarily need knowledge of maths. I think we should try to reach out to editors interested in biographical articles and may be set a target of completing this list, maybe before 2016. Thoughts? Solomon 7968 20:15, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if you can find projects interested in assisting. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women scientists might be interested in some of these, for instance. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:CatScan can be used to track which of the existing articles do not have the {{MathGenealogy}} template, with the caveat that many articles may have it in a non templated format. Solomon 7968 12:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed today that {{subst:page name}} doesn't worked for the article Daniel Allcock for some reason. Anybody knows why? Solomon 7968 18:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because it should be {{subst:pagename}} without the space? —David Eppstein (talk) 18:20, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see it works without the space. However it also seems to, then, put the article into a Hidden category which later requires cleaning up.

Btw, I notice you are adding "Year of birth missing (living people)" categories to quite a few of the articles. I don't see the benefit of it. We are not going to be able to get their birth year (let alone date), unless the academics themselves include in their webpage/CV. Solomon 7968 19:28, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am substing the {{lifetime}} template, which sets a DEFAULTSORT and adds the year of birth/death and living person categories. It is also the one that adds the missing year category. So if you think this is a useless category, I think the proper place to discuss it is on the talk page for that template. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way to track that whether any articles of this category are getting speedily deleted? I noticed today our article on Sucharit Sarkar is deleted (he has got at least an one paper with citation count 167; which some of our AMS folks don't have). I won't be surprised if there is precedent that some article of this category has also been deleted that way. Solomon 7968 17:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not easily, no. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:25, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that we start a new list from the Category in the model of List of Fellows of the Association for Computing Machinery which will make it easier to complete article creation on the redlinks (some of the redlinks are obviously also mentioned at List of International Congresses of Mathematicians Plenary and Invited Speakers) with the next 2018 ICM as the target date (earlier target of 2016 was just too ambitious). The category should stay but this talk page better fits at the article talk page. Would you be able to start the article and move (without leaving a redirect) this page? Solomon 7968 14:52, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably easier just to start a new article from scratch than to try to copy this page and merge it with the existing category. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:53, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how it can be easier. We shouldn't have any compulsion to start with the whole list in the first edit. Let me know if you are going to do it. Your refusal will prompt me to start the page with the 2017 class fellows, the rest will follow in subsequent edits. Solomon 7968 17:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Easier because the lists here are only the missing ones, while the lists on the AMS web site are the entire classes for their years. A little regular-expression transformation should put them into our format without a lot of hand editing required. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:13, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, one advantage of merging the list here with the content of the category would be that the names are already matched to the Wikipedia articles, avoiding any issues with Wikipedia using a different name than the AMS and with other non-mathematicians using the same names. So if you want to use this talk page as the basis of a list article for that reason, I have no objection. If I were doing it myself I'd do it from the AMS lists again rather than trying to re-merge this talk with the category, but maybe your workflow is different than mine. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:37, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about regular-expressions. If it is indeed easy then I guess it is better that I not touch it right now. Solomon 7968 00:59, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]