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WMDE needs to grow the fuck up and realize that Labs isn't what they thought it was, admit that they've been wrong, and properly fund toolserver. The WMF needs to grow the fuck up, get over the fact that they dislike sharing power with the chapters, and give WMDE some money to help run the toolserver. This kind of childish bullshit is precisely the reason that confidence in the WMF and some of the larger chapters is so low. No one editing on any of the projects, the people doing the actual work that the WMF and WMDE supposedly support, gives a shit about the monumentally large egos of the battling staff members, or the incessant pissing matches that serve only to fuel those egos. What we do care about is that if toolsever fails, projects stop working correctly. Figure out something, pretend to be nice to each other, and don't let this happen again. Everyone that isn't in the WMF or WMDE leadership is tired of it. Sven Manguard Wha? 19:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sven said it perfectly. Legoktm (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Exactly. --Atlasowa (talk) 11:40, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
+1 SeeAlso → Permalink de.wikipedia --Knochen ﱢﻝﱢ‎ 18:37, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Money shouldn't be the problem for WMDE (and I also doubt it for WMF). Hence, I'd change your comment in the following way: WMF needs to grow the fuck up and realize that Labs actually cannot and possibly will never be able to replace the toolserver entirely, admit that they've been wrong, and properly support the toolserver [esp. with dumps or a virtual surface = things WMDE is not able or allowed to develop on its own]. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 20:14, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]