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GR romanization: (re)assessment

Having just made a fairly thorough revision of the article on the Gwoyeu Romatzyh romanization of Chinese, I've tentatively given it a classification, & flagged it for reassessment -- though I don't know how that works in practice.

I'd be grateful for comments. Ndsg 12:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Request for Peer Review now made. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 18:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: Wikipedia:Romanization_of_Mongolian

I'm looking for expert input on this proposal. Any takers? It's a rather exotic language, but there's a lot of historic (and other) material based on it. --Latebird 12:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Meanings of letters in the Latin alphabet

Some letters have a long list of meanings in the main article and a long disambiguation page where more are given, often overlapping. See, for example, I vs. I (disambiguation). Others have all meanings at the disambiguation page (e.g. G vs. G (disambiguation)), and yet others have an almost empty disambiguation page (e.g. H vs. H (disambiguation)). To the newcomer it seems an arbitrary muddle. Just in case I feel like tackling this, is any logic here that I am missing? Is there any preference for putting the meanings in one place or the other? Matt 12:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC).

Hi Matt, you bring up a good point. Wikipedia generally avoids merging multiple topics under the same title, which includes making part of a page a disambiguation. Technically, the disambiguation pages should be the bare letter (i.e. G (disambiguation) should be G) and the article about the letter should be something like G (letter). However, in situations where one topic is much more popular than all of the other choices, the popular topic gets the bare title and the disambiguation page gets a subtitle. It happens in other articles too, see IPA, which redirects to "International Phonetic Alphabet" and the disambiguation page is at IPA (disambiguation). I hope I answered your question without to much confusion ;-) The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 00:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, the way it is at the moment clearly doesn't work because there is so much duplication and overlap between the "letter" articles and the "disambiguation" articles. In the absence of any other opinion I propose that all these lists of other meanings should go on the disambiguation pages. I have made a start, and moved and merged the lists for Y and Z. I'll probbaly do some more as and when. Matt 14:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Nice job! I'll try to do some work with it, too. Also, I'd suggest setting up an account—editors with accounts get a "watchlist" that helps them keep track of stuff they're working on, something that could probably help you here. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Gwoyeu Romatzyh (information)

For your information, the Chinese romanization system Gwoyeu Romatzyh has been a FAC since 26 March. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 12:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Any comments on the color-coding issue being discussed on the FAC page would be welcome. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 17:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Update: the article was promoted earlier today. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 17:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Recent Unicode articles and categories

User:Indexheavy has recently been creating a number of new articles and categories on Unicode related topics. This would be great, if he hadn't neglected to learn a little about how Wikipedia does such things first. As it is, much of his efforts may end up as being wasted, because they are either redundant or unsuitable for other reasons. I became aware of this because he added Category:Unicode script to some articles on my watch list. Besides the incorrect singular title, this category promises to become almost entirely redundant to the Category:Writing systems (it would probably be more useful to categorize the few exceptions that still aren't in unicode). Maybe some of the subject matter experts can have a look at his work, and gently nudge him into the right direction. --Latebird 09:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Essentially agreeing with you. --Pjacobi 09:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello from LINGUIST List!

This message was posted on the Wikipedia Talk: WikiProject Linguistics discussion page, but I wanted to make sure it was seen here as well:

I hope you have all had a chance to read about LINGUIST List’s new effort to recruit linguists for updating Wikipedia pages (see links on Wikipedia Talk: WikiProject Linguistics discussion. It is good to see that there is an active group of editors already working away. For those of you who haven’t already heard, The LINGUIST List was nominated by Dr. Partee (in Russia) to coordinate academic linguists in an update of the linguistics and language pages. In April, our online linguistics community confirmed this with an overwhelming vote, and as promised, I am the graduate research assistant working to recruit linguistics editors. For the past few weeks, I have been reading about WikiProject Linguistics, familiarizing myself with all the subprojects, and trying to get a handle on the many activities you’ve already started. Here at The LINGUIST List, we’ve decided to place our focus on any areas is not being actively worked on yet. This might be tackling the “to do” lists of a few subprojects, adding to those lists, or whatever else is appropriate. Feel free to make suggestions on this page, or shoot me an email at hannah@linguistlist.org (my name is Hannah Morales).

Looking forward to working with everyone,
--Linguistlist 16:55, 9 May 2007 (UTC) Hannah, LINGUIST List

Sinhala alphabet peer review

Hello, I have done some work on this article and would appreciate feedback. The article now explains the use of the two sets of graphemes and covers consonant graphemes and vocalic diacritic in an (I hope) understandable way. All tables are linked as images to help people who do not have the fonts installed (estimated 98% of users). There is also some info on history and usage.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Sinhala_alphabet

Feedback is most welcome Jasy jatere 19:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Tibetan

I write Tibetan using WylieWord and Jskad, but copying and pasting Tibetan text onto Wikipedia does not work. The problem apparently is the conversion between TibetanMachineWeb – used by WylieWord and Jskad – and Tibetan Machine Uni – used by Wikipedia(?). I am looking for a free converter. Any suggestion is appreciated. Stammer 12:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC). OK, I found a workaround using Tise. Stammer 13:18, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

I think it should be appropriate to have a graded level of writing systems userboxes on the Wikipeida:UBX gallery. The Babel is for grading the effectiveness of people knowing a language by sound. There should be a similar process for the written part as well. The userboxes for the written language, in my opinion does not reflect what it is suppose to be.

Infobox kana

I'm trying to make an infobox for the articles on the individual japanese kana (i.e. あ, い, う, え, お). It's at Template:Infobox kana. I need suggestions, and I need help writing the code for the infobox itself. This is my first time making an infobox, and I only half know what I'm doing. --Tea and crumpets 03:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now the infobox is good enough to use. If you want, you can help me put it into all of the kana pages. If you have anything to add to it, please do, or post it in the infobox's discussion page and I'll add it myself. --Tea and crumpets 01:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Set nomination for Version 0.7 DVD release

We would like to add most (I'm proposing 31) of the 37 articles nominated here for the next release on DVD (a 38th is already included). Before we do this, I'd like to get some expert opinion from people on this project. Please take a look and see if the 31 I'm proposing are a reasonable selection. We want to avoid weak articles and also more obscure topics. The current assessments from this project are listed next to the articles, and the 31 are shown in bold. Thanks, Walkerma 03:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

PS: I'd like also to include list of writing systems, which would serve as an excellent overview list for this set. However, it has a cleanup tag on it right now. If it can be cleaned up over the summer, we'd love to include that article too. Walkerma 04:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Code2000 DRV

Recently the article on the Unicode font Code2000 was deleted, with no informed comment. That deletion is being reviewed, and members of this project who wish to do so may comment here. --KSmrq^T 07:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Chinese GR romanization will be tomorrow's TFA

The article on the Chinese romanization system Gwoyeu Romatzyh will be tomorrow's FA on the main page. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 17:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion nominations & notifications

28 September 2007 - expires 3 October

Start Case (via WP:PROD)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

Alphabet 26 (via WP:PROD on 5 September 2007) Kept
Alphabet 26 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alphabet 26 (5 September 2007) Withdrawn by nominator

An Interesting Link

I'm not a participant of this WikiProject but I've just found an interesting link - [1]

Pictures of various writing systems, as well as numerous downloadable fonts can be found there so I think it could be useful to this project (offcourse, if it hasn't been already added).

--Vorkalloner 21:46, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Hiragana Character 'tsu'

I thought that I'd just add that, I believe that tsu with ten-tens goes to 'dzu' not zwu. I think you should take this into consideration. The City 09:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latin_alphabet

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latin_alphabet appears to be inactive and has been nominated for deletion. One suggestion was to merge it into this project but it isn't clear that there is enough there to merge. Comments are needed. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 04:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Article for deletion: List of examples of faux Cyrillic typography

List of examples of faux Cyrillic typography at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of examples of faux Cyrillic typography (19 December 2007)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Please check isopsephy

According to my sources, the Greek word "ἰσοψηφία (isopsephía)" means "equal right to vote" and has nothing to do with the article isopsephy and its meaning of numerology. The etymology is "pebble" in the sense that each citizen of Athens had a pebble in order to express one's vote.

Please check. --Achillu (talk) 13:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I checked myself. I found the source for the article.

--Achillu (talk) 16:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)