Wikipedia talk:WikiProject University of Oxford/Archive 3

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The Bullingdon Club

I have read about this club on numerous occasions ever since Cameron and his pals were revealed to be former members and it got me wondering whether or not the club is still in existence? Have any of you who are or were at Oxford ever come across them or heard stories about them? Are the clubs members well known on campus? I’m hoping to apply to Oxford (Christ Church) next year and was just curious to find out whether such clubs still existed and how prevalent they were on campus. Thanks. 79.77.210.106 (talk) 03:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Assessment spree

I have embarked on a major spree of assessing article qualities and importances. I have tried to follow precedents where they exist. Let me know if I've made any major errors! Jonathan A Jones (talk) 11:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Need a photograph of Alister McGrath

Can someone at the university please take a photograph(s) of McGrath? Richard001 (talk) 09:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

There's a copyrighted one on Flickr; I've sent an email to the photographer asking him to release under a Creative Commons licence. Bencherlite ^Talk 10:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Help Wanted: Wikimania 2010 Oxford Bid

Hi all,

I am currently helping to coordinate Oxford's bid for the 2010 Wikimania conference. Any help you could give (by e.g. editing the bid page, finding sponsors, finding venues) would be much appreciated.

The main bid page is here: m:Wikimania 2010/Bids/UK/Oxford And I recommend you join the Wikimedia UK mailing list on which we are discussing it by signing up here: [1]

Thanks in advance,

--cfp (talk) 18:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured List candidate

List of Principals and Fellows of Jesus College, Oxford is a Featured List candidate. All further improvements welcome. Bencherlite ^Talk 09:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for University of Oxford

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

List of Organ Scholars at British Universities and Colleges

You may have noticed that this article has been created and a large swathe of college articles have been amended with incorrectly formatted 'see also' links. I've contacted the editor who has been bold with his edits, requesting that the {{seealso}} template be used, but the list article itself contains many non-notable examples and appears to be an example farm. I've tagged it accordingly, and would invite other members of the project to take a look. Coldmachine^Talk 09:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I am reverting links from the college articles I keep an eye on; even if this list is appropriate the link from main college articles is not.Jonathan A Jones (talk) 11:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've gone through and done the same to the college articles I have on my watchlist (about 10 or so). My edit summary invites User:Andrewrabbott to join a discussion here on the matter. Coldmachine^Talk 15:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with this, but I would have less objection to have a link to the list under "See also" in College articles and some other Oxford articles. --Bduke (Discussion) 21:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Colleges taskforce?

Do you think it would be worth creating a taskforce for college pages? I know there's only 40 or so of them, but it would be nice to see how the college articles are doing; it would make a very nice featured topic one day... IncoherentScream (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

RfC for WP:BOOSTER

There is a request for comment about whether or not WP:BOOSTER documents a standard consensus and good practice that all editors and school/college/university articles should follow as an official policy or guideline. Madcoverboy (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Laudian Chair of Arabic / John Gagnier

Our article on Ayuba Suleiman Diallo (an educated Senegalese fellow who was sold into slavery in the 1700s but who managed to have himself manumitted and repatriated) says:

"Eventually, the letter reached the office of James Oglethorpe, Director of the Royal African Company. After having the letter authenticated by John Gagnier, the Laudian Chair of Arabic at Oxford, Oglethorpe purchased Ayuba for ₤45."

I wanted to link "Laudian Chair of Arabic" / "Laudian Chair".
We have an article at Laudian Professor of Arabic ("The Laudian Professorship of Arabic was established by Archbishop Laud of Canterbury in favour of Oxford University.")
This article lists all holders of this chair, but John Gagnier does not appear on this list. What are the facts in this situation? -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 13:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The list of Laudian Professors may be incomplete; the DNB says of Gagnier that in 1718 "he was appointed deputy to the absentee Laudian professor of Arabic, John Wallis" [NB not John Wallis] and that he was "appointed to the Lord Almoner's professorship of Arabic" in 1724. Omassey (talk) 13:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Clear out the generic Oxford alumni category?

Anybody fancy joining in attacking Category:Alumni of the University of Oxford? Most, if not all, should be placed in a college sub-category - it's a case of finding sources. I've had a go at a few this afternoon, with the help of Who's-Who/Who-Was-Who and sources mentioned in the article, but there are still 580 or so that need placing. Bencherlite ^Talk 20:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It strikes me as a very ambitious and time consuming investigation quest. Which Who's-Who/Who-Was-Who do you use?

Ghaag (talk) 09:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I have online access through my local library service. Down to 540 now. Bencherlite ^Talk 19:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Assessment Process

Hi,

What is the assessment process for this project? I assume one does not unilaterally upgrade the quality of an article. I am bringing this as I recently stumbled upon the Wadham College page which strikes me as much better than most Start-Class quality articles.

Ghaag (talk) 08:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

To first approximation one does precisely that, following the guidance at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment and precedent. Many of the current assessments date from my rough and ready mass assessing spree in May 2008, and are well out of date. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 09:22, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Jonathan is correct; updating the quality rating is both allowed and encouraged. I went through fairly recently reassessing the college articles; but assessments are inevitably out of date and should always be subject to periodic re-evaluation. So if you see an assessment that's out of date, go ahead and change it! IncoherentScream (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Foster's Alumni Oxonienses is now available online

Hooray! At http://www.archive.org – the links below are to the "flip book" versions (if you want to look at them in another way, then this is the link to the search page for all hits for "Alumni Oxonienses".

Vol 1: 1500 to 1714
- A to D
- E to K
- L to R
- S to Z
Vol 2: 1715 to 1886
- A to D
- E to K
- L to R
- S to Z

Bencherlite ^Talk 12:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review of Jesus College Boat Club (Oxford)

I have listed Jesus College Boat Club (Oxford) for peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Jesus College Boat Club (Oxford)/archive1. All input welcome. Bencherlite ^Talk 09:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Department of Education

There is currently no entry in Category:Departments of the University of Oxford for the Department of Education [2]. Greylin (talk) 15:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there anybody there?

I mean, in Oxford - I'm working on Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford and was wondering whether someone could swing round to Turl St during opening hours with a camera. Drop me a line on my talk page if so, and I'll give you my (short) "wish list". Bencherlite ^Talk 18:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Resources list

To try and keep track of useful websites and books (online and "off-line"), I've boldly started a collection at Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Oxford/Resources to which I hope others will contribute. Bencherlite ^Talk 22:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone has access to a hard copy of Volume VIII (20th century) of the recent OUP History of the University? If so, I've got a favour to ask... Bencherlite ^Talk 00:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for starting this list - I'll be glad to add to it. I have access to a copy of volume 8 at work - what do you need? Addedentry (talk) 14:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Jesus College, Oxford

I have conducted a reassessment of this article. I have some concerns which are listed at Talk:Jesus College, Oxford/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

College categories

Most if not all Colleges have a College category, e.g. Category:The Queen's College, Oxford for my own college. The college articles are in that category and in Category:Colleges of the University of Oxford, but the latter category is the parent category for the college categories. Is this acceptable? I would have thought the college articles should be removed from the parent category. --Bduke (Discussion) 23:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

(Was this prompted by an edit of mine yesterday?!) There was some centralised discussion about this at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization/Eponymous_RFC. Unfortunately, my head hurts when I try to read it... My instinct is to say that someone navigating to Category:Colleges of the University of Oxford should be able to click on the individual college articles at that point, not have to navigate to the eponymous college category first. Bencherlite ^Talk 05:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it was prompted by your edit to Queen's yesterday. I do not really follow articles on other colleges. I saw you were just completing the addition of all colleges to that category. I also though there was a guideline about not having articles in parent and child categories, but I see it is more complex. Yes, my head hurts too. What do non-native English speakers do meeting words like "Eponymous", which even Oxford D Phils have never heard of? It is in the Shorter Oxford Dictionary and I see that yet again wikipedia is using a word in a different (if slightly) sense than the dictionary definition. Since that discussion you linked to seems to allow it, I have no disagreement with you. Let us leave well alone. --Bduke (Discussion) 07:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Common sense dictates that the category "Colleges of the University of Oxford" should contain the articles on the various colleges of the University of Oxford. :D That is, the category should contain both the articles and the eponymous categories, and the articles can quite legitimately appear in both categories. IncoherentScream (talk) 11:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts (2)

I have boldly signed this WikiProject up to WP:Article alerts. Add the following to your watchlist if you wish: Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Oxford/Article alerts, or check the front page of the project every once in a while. Bencherlite ^Talk 22:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject University of Oxford to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Oxford/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 20:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)