Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand/Archives/2018

Dearth of coverage of Thai units in Vietnam War?

Queen's Cobras M79 grenadier in Phuoc Tho in 1967

For year now I've had "Queen's Cobras" on my list of redlinks to create stubs for, so today I made stubs for the Royal Thai Volunteer Regiment (Queen's Cobras) that arrived in Vietnam in 1967, and the Royal Thai Army Expeditionary Division (Black Panthers) who replaced them and remained until 1971. I'd invite anyone to help expand these stubs, and to help expand coverage of Thailand's role. I have also created the draft Draft:Thailand in the Vietnam War, by analog to New Zealand in the Vietnam War and South Korea in the Vietnam War and welcome any expansion help there.

Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Dearth_of_coverage_of_Thai_units_in_Vietnam_War? for ongoing discussion of the topic and developing draft. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:44, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

I've left a few comments on the article talk page. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:08, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

sorting question, written Thai mixed in with UNICODE roman letters

I know exactly nothing about written Thai (Sanskrit?)... but have a sorting question. In Wat Phra Dhammakaya the reference to "สองศิษย์เอกธัมมชโยโต้ขอกล่าวหาวัดพระธรรมกาย" appears between Mackenzie, Rory (2007) and McCargo, Duncan (1999). What is the logic behind placing it there? Is that the correct placement? Tks in advance Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 13:21, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

It's published by Matichon, which falls alphabetically between the two mentioned names.−Woodstone (talk) 13:56, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

does it not have an author? I don't think it's reasonable to switch between "sorted by author" and "sorted by pubisher", tho "sorted by author" and "sorted by title" is common... Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:13, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

It looks like the sorting uses the publisher's name if the author is unknown. Not an unreasonable procedure. Not really switching between ways of sorting. In the same list there is also and article by "dhammakaya foundation" in the same pattern.−Woodstone (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I just checked it again, and the Matichon article has been written by an anonymous journalist. In Thai newspapers, it is not uncommon for journalists to write in anonymity due to the strict censure laws and fear of political revenge. Let me know if the sources need to be listed in another way. The article in question has now been sorted by its publisher's name, the newspaper Matichon, but due to the template, the title has been moved forward to the front of the line.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Oh, my goal for coming here wasn't to suggest that something should or shouldn't be changed, though that's a reasonable question. My goal was to figure out how I should be approaching this question, and what approach the article uses. Thank you Woodstone & Farang Rak Tham for your replies/information. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 20:42, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Bot work on sorting of biographies

Hi. This is a heads-up that I've requested bot assistance for correcting and maintaining sort keys for Thai biographical articles. This will bring articles in line with the guidance at WP:NAMESORT and WP:MOSTHAI. The specific discussions are at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Mass editing {{DEFAULTSORT}} values and Wikipedia:Bot requests#Fixing sort keys for biographies of Thai people. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:51, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for input on biographical article sorting

As a follow-up to the above issue, it's been questioned whether the current guidelines, which instructs editors to override the default surname sorting for biographical articles about Thai people articles in Thai people categories, should be modified. Your input would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people#Moving forward. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:09, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for help with Big Bike Tours

I found this page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Big_Bike_Tours and see it needs some improving. I believe the problem is most of the material written about them is in Thai. So if anyone could add some extra references from Thai sources that would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TreeDancer3 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

The English-language sources are few, but Thai-language ones are virtually nonexistent (save for directory listings). This appears to be an operation solely catering to foreigners. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

New article 2017–18 Thai temple fraud investigations

If anyone has been following the news in Thailand, this new article might be interesting for you. Comments are welcome.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 11:54, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Could anyone assess the article? It is still unassessed. Thank you.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Coordinates need fixing

An IP put in coordinates and changed them in Tham Luang cave rescue article. Could someone who knows the correct coordinates fix it?(Mobile mundo (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2018 (UTC)) Mobile mundo (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

RfC on election/referendum naming format

An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 57 15:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Request for input at Thai royal funeral

Hi. There's discussion on whether the Thai royal prefixes phra and phra boromma should be used in article text, and how to spell merumat/merumas, at Talk:Thai royal funeral#Spelling and treatment of Thai royal terms. Further input is appreciated. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:17, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Suggest deprecating needs-infobox parameter in project template

Hi. I'd like to suggest that we deprecate the use of the needs-infobox parameter in Template:WikiProject Thailand. Since the project covers a wide range of subjects which aren't served by a single infobox, having Category:Thailand articles needing infoboxes doesn't really facilitate editing. Articles can be tagged via other more projects where the parameter is more relevant. If there are no objections, I'll make an edit request on the template and tag the category for deletion. (Note: I made the additions back in 2012.) --Paul_012 (talk) 07:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Go for it.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 08:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Thai name question

Hi, I'm not familiar with naming in Thailand. There a current discussion at Talk: Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha about whether he should be referred to by his first or last name. The Manual of Style seems to suggest that often Thai people are referred to by first name, but we're unsure if this is applicable to him. Please feel free to join the discussion there. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:46, 29 October 2018 (UTC)