Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royal Society/Women in Science Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Royal Society, March 2014
Sister events
[edit]We are having a sister event on March 4 in Davis, California; details are here! Join us if you're in the area, and we look forward to collaborating! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 23:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Great! Please get your people to make a note by any articles on the lists here that they are working on, for records and to avoid edit conflicts etc, though the time difference will largely prevent that. Hope it goes well! Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 14:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Articles linked to from an outside site
[edit]The reddit Men's Rights subreddit has linked to some of the related articles in this edit-a-thon, with requests for that group to edit them.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1z077g/online_action_feminists_rewrite_scientific/ and http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1yuxiz/feminist_input_into_wikipedia_trying_to_rewrite/ --Zx80 (talk) 08:25, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Wot I told the Economist
[edit]Re their mention of the event: As the Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society in London, and organizer of the Women in Science event on March 4th (fully booked but online participants welcome - see the event page at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Royal_Society/Women_in_Science_Wikipedia_Edit-a-thon_at_the_Royal_Society,_March_2014) I'm grateful for your mention of it. But your description of "articles on women scientists, which tend to be incomplete or even non-existent" is not very accurate. All articles on Wikipedia might be called "incomplete" to some degree, as the nature of the beast, unlike other encyclopedias, is that there is no agreed level of "completion". Of course many articles are short, but this is just as true of those on male scientists. That is why I'm still up at 3.40 am finding enough suggestions to keep the 36 attendees busy, which is not an easy task. Anyone with suggestions can add them to the "Other suggestions" section on the page. Eminent women scientists with "non-existent" articles are actually hard to find, though I have found a few; thanks to previous events like next week's, all the women FRS's there have ever been have a Wikipedia biography, which is certainly not the case for the men (admittedly a much larger group). For example, James Tait FRS, who died recently, has no biography [redirects to his wife], but his wife Sylvia Tait FRS has a decent-sized one. The under-recognition of women in science has been a general problem, but Wikipedians are determined to make sure we are part of the solution. Johnbod (talk) 03:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Photographs on the day
[edit]- 28 more photos just uploaded [1] Edwardx (talk) 13:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Some used already, here & for the next time. Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 18:55, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I got into a conversation about this article on the day, but it seems not to have happened. Just a stub so far. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Requesting Editathon Info for Program Learning
[edit]Hello organizers and attendees of the Women in Science Editathon. The WMF Program Evaluation and Design team are finishing up the second round of program data collection on November 26th and we would love to include information on your editathon. Below are the questions which still need answers--could you please contribute any answers you know? Critical questions are highlighted in yellow; it should take about 3 minutes to fill in all the missing critical data. This voluntary program reporting helps us build an overview of programs and really helps with shared learning and capacity building for future editathons. If you have any questions, I would be very happy to chat, either through my talk page or at abittaker at wikimedia dot org. Many thanks! --Abittaker (WMF) (talk) 23:22, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
EVENT NAME | DATA TYPE | WikiProject Royal Society/Women in Science Editathon |
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START DAY AND TIME OF EVENT | [YYYYMMDD HH:MM:SS] | 4 March 2104. 2pm to 9pm in 2 sessions |
END DAY AND TIME OF EVENT | [YYYYMMDD HH:MM:SS] | 4 March 2104. 9pm |
What resources were used for this program in terms of staff/volunteer time and money? | ||
Number of Wikimedia staff hours | Number | 7? 2 volunteers were p/t WMUK staff, so countede them, but not sure if they were there as staff or volunteers. Organizer was WiR, WMUK funded |
Total value of Staff time | Number | WMUK maybe 7-9 hours; Wir maybe 50 hrs. Royal Society staff not counted |
How were staff hours estimated? | Text | no timesheets; estimate |
Number of volunteer hours | Number | 32. 8 x avge 4 = 32, excluding WiR |
Total value of volunteer time | Number | ??? May have been say $30 travel claimed |
How were volunteer hours estimated? | Text | just time at event, plus a little later |
What was the total budget (USD) spent for this program? | Number | No money changed hands |
Did you receive any donated resources for this event? | ||
Meeting Space | Yes or No? | YES |
Materials or Equipment | Yes or No? | Electrics in room |
Food | Yes or No? | Yes, and soft drink |
Prizes or Giveaways | Yes or No? | only badges & leaflets |
What is the estimated value of the donations? | In USD | ? Food by caterers maybe $150 (guess) |
In terms of participation... | ||
What was the total number of participants? | Both online and offline | about 46, inc volunteers |
Which Wikimedia Projects were involved? | e.g. enwiki, ptwiki, etc. | enwiki |
Please list any article categories used | various women scientist biography categories | |
What percent of the participants were female? | about 85% of attendees ex volunteers | |
Please list all usernames involved | separated by commas | Jagriffiths, Brpalmer83, Grippon, Smallmocha, Francesca McKenna, Kate Jeffery, Djedjevailly, Rarmstrong1983, EPuttock, DrTinuviel, 9frm, Cdonovan7757, jamesjoycebookfan, Northerlywind, Vazquezcervino, Smunday, Elgarrett, Sjmet, Cancharani, Susipoli70, Amcknutsson, Annwit, EMD1983, katiejaneanderso, i.am.lost ,Metacladistics, christophe, Cmaximino, TaraInDC, Monxton, e_bruton, Oceangurl14 - there were others |
Learning question: Did your work increase the motivation of contributors, and how do you know? | Text | Yes, feedback forms. Nearly all attendees had not edited before |
In terms of text added and quality... | ||
Number of Wikimedia project pages improved | Count from event page | See list at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Royal_Society/Women_in_Science_Wikipedia_Edit-a-thon_at_the_Royal_Society,_March_2014#Articles_started.2Fedited event page |
Total number of Good Articles | Event Page/CatScan2 | none - at least 6 DYKs |
Total number of Featured articles | Event Page/CatScan2 | |
In terms of replication and learning... | ||
This program was run by an experienced program leader who can help others in conducting a similar program. | Yes or No | Yes |
This program generated brochures and printed materials developed to tell others about it. | Yes or No | Only online stuff |
This program generated blogs or other online information written to tell others about it (published by yourself or others). | Yes or No | Yes, various |
This program generated a guide or instructions for how to implement a similar project. | Yes or No | No |
NONE OF THE ABOVE | Yes or No | |
Please share links to any online blogs, posts, or other materials / that were generated about your program | Links/Text | Lots of media coverage - see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Royal_Society/Women_in_Science_Wikipedia_Edit-a-thon_at_the_Royal_Society,_March_2014#Media |
Which of the following outcomes and targets are priority goals for your program? (Please indicate which were your top goals from this list by marking an x in the column to the right.) | ||
Building and Engaging Community | Mark with an x | X |
Increasing Accuracy and/or Detail of information | Mark with an x | X |
Increasing Awareness of Wikimedia Projects | Mark with an x | X |
Increasing Buy-in to the Open Knowledge / Free Content Movement | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Contributions | Mark with an x | X |
Increasing Diversity of Information Coverage | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Diversity of Participants | Mark with an x | X |
Increasing Access to Wikimedia | Mark with an x | |
Increased Reader Satisfaction | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Usefulness, Usablity, and Use of Contributions | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Use and Access | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Skills for Editing/Contributing | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Volunteer Motivation and Commitment | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Perceptions of Credibility and/or Quality | Mark with an x | X |
Making Contributing Fun | Mark with an x | |
Making Contributing Easier | Mark with an x | |
Recruiting and/or converting New Users | Mark with an x | X |
Retaining and Activating Existing Editors | Mark with an x | |
Increasing Participation of Content Experts | Mark with an x | X |
Other (Specify) | Text |
Melanie Lee
[edit]I picked up the baton and Melanie Lee is now live. Fences&Windows 20:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Meg Patterson AFD : neurosurgeon with MBE less notable than her husband (sans MBE)
[edit]I recently started an article on the neurosurgeon Meg Patterson and it was immediately AFDd. I do not initiate many biog articles on women, but I cannot remember any of my stubs on men being treated so harshly, with referenced material being slashed, and somebody at the AFD suggesting that she is only notable because of her husband! Mais oui! (talk) 12:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- What was said at the AFD was that the only inline citation that was in the article (at the time of the post was posted) was to her husbands obituary, and that this was not enough to establish notability.Slatersteven (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2017 (UTC)