Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Romani people/Archive 1

Archive 1

POV

I'm a little alarmed that one of the first acts of the founder (and currently only member) of this WikiProject, User:Desiphral, has been to nominate for deletion a rather innocuous article on a nationally known criminal, who happens to be gypsy, on the grounds that it is racist. This smacks to me of trying to suppress information for nationalistic reasons. Future members of this WikiProject should remember that Wikipedia is not censored and that a point of view can be pushed not just by adding material but by removing it as well. —Psychonaut 13:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, it is not one of my first acts, it is just part of my daily routine on Romani issues, which happened to fall in the same day (and predating the creation of this WikiProject). However, it seems that, as in many other cases of wiki editing, I have to confront racist POVs even in creating this WikiProject. Certain persons do not like to see the Roma as normal people, seeming to stick with the "Gypsy" stereotypes/prejudices. Should I take this as warning, to keep remember for staying in the limits of the "Gypsy" image? Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 13:29, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

No, you should take this as a reminder that Wikipedia is not politically correct and is not engaged in affirmative action. We should not remove information on well-known criminals simply because they happen to be members of an ethnic minority stereotypically classed as criminals. —Psychonaut 14:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You mean that Wikipedia should express the racist POV of some parts of the world population? I wrote at that AfD that there are enough shaking White beggars, but they do not have wiki articles. And she is not a "well-known criminal", just a mass-media creation for the amusement of the racist readers. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 14:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Her criminal conviction qualifies her as a criminal. Five years' coverage in the local and national media qualify her as well-known. There is no disputing that she is notable. If you object to the fact that she is being singled out at the expense of notorious white beggars, the solution is not to delete her article, but to write articles about these notorious white beggars. (And note that I am not disputing your claim that she is a mass-media creation for the amusement of racist readers. On the contrary, I invite you to find published criticism to this effect and add it to the article. I'm pretty sure I recall reading articles stating this point of view.) —Psychonaut 14:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

No, there is no necessity to make a wiki article about a beggar having no other social role than a a target for amusement and hating in the same time, be they of any ethnicity. The info itself has no encyclopedic value, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 14:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

New pictures at WikiMedia Commons

I uploaded 6 new pictures at Wikimeda Commons into the ctegory of Roma People.see them [here] --Anglos 10:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Template for the Romani language

I noticed there is not any template to show that a user can speak Romani language. I find this rather disturbig, as there are templates about some bizarre constructed languages (e.g. Wenedyk), however Romani Chhib does not have its own template. Is any of the more experienced members of this group able to create such a template? --Anglos 13:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

LOL, see the discussion I started here :) --Kuaichik 05:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Joining this project

Hello,

I am one of the sons of Ian Hancock, and of Romani descent. I would like to join this WP group and contribute my skills as a part-time editor.

My skills are more Wikipedia oriented and less Romani-info oriented; I prefer to leave that up to my father, the academic.

I can fix spellings, grammatical errors, and typography related to the Romani language as necessary.

Weasel5i2 (talk) 01:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Roma people proposed move

Hi. People involved in this project might be interested in contributing to the discussion at Talk:Roma people#Requested move. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Tschiwi

I have left a question on Talk:Norwegian and Swedish Travellers that maybe someone here can answer. —Zalktis (talk) 07:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes list

Perhaps someone else might find this useful:

• List of recent Romani-related changes.

It's based on the bot that tracks the {{WikiProject Romani people}} template. The more articles the where the template is used, the better the list reflects articles relevant to the project. Note that the bot only updates its article list every 5 days or so, so there can be a bit of a lag after the template is applied. —Zalktis (talk) 15:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

• The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
• The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
• A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Romani people

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 23:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Help needed

Hi there, I need some help. I'm improving the Hamburg article (hopefully a GA or maybe a FA sometime in the future) and there is this unsourced statement in the section Hamburg#Language:

Hamburg has a sizeable population of Sinti and Roma (“Gypsy”) people, some of them sedentary (mostly Sinti) and some of them nomadic or semi-nomadic (mostly Roma), camp grounds being set aside by the state and municipal governments. Hamburg is thus one of the few locations in the world in which both Sinti and Romany are spoken, and it is also one of the major headquarters of international Roma organisations.

Can anybody provide a citation or source for this? I've tried the ERRC [1] but found nothing. I'm sorry, but if there is no ref, I think this should be deleted. Please forgive my bad English I'm German. Please respond here, I watch this page now. Greetings. Sebastian scha. (talk) 00:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Sebastian, I'm answering to your message on my user page, but I admit I may not be the best person to ask when it comes to these things (my involvement in this project does not provide me personally with adequate info about this particular article and, alas, many others). Someone may wish to research this further, but, at the moment, the unsourced statement can be deleted as far as I can tell - while it may be true (I just don't know), it may not be either notable (in the sense that "there may be no need to single out Hamburg among German cities with Romani communities") or verifiable. In case someone can actually verify it, it could be easily reinserted in the text at that time, with a proper source added. In case you have not already, I suggest you also contact other members of the project who may provide more detailed and source-based info. I do apologize in the name of the project (that is, if I may) for the low level of activity here. In any case, best of luck on fulfilling the GA and FA goals. Dahn (talk) 15:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, but this is absolutly not urgent. I'm sitting in front of the history section and don't know how to improve it. As long this is not solved the sentence above will stay in the article (with a fact tag). Maybe anybody else is able to help. (And for the level of activity, 16 h after the question an answer is a high level to be proud of IMHO.) Greetings. Sebastian scha. (talk) 01:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello! I'll ask my father about this one, he may have some sources to cite. Weasel5i2 (talk) 13:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow, there should be a source ,-) This is very nice, thank you. As said above you've got enough time. And I will be satisfied with any source (even if can't read it, I'll assume good faith). Thanks. Greetings. Sebastian scha. (talk) 00:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to rename "Roma people" Wikipedia article to "Romani people"

We are searching for a consensus. Please read and react to the proposal on the Wikipedia "Roma people" talk page.Steviemitlo (talk) 15:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

John Roberts, Harpist - Kale (Welsh Romanies)

I'm new to wiki and have only just found this project. I'm a descendant of Abram Wood and John Roberts. I've been bold enough to add some sentences about the later John Roberts in particular the family's performance at Pale Hall before Q Victoira. But I don't know how to put the reference to the book in the right format. Could someone fix that for me, please. Colinvlr (talk) 16:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. Perhaps you could edit the section and add page refs to the citation template? Or I can do it for you, if you give me the relevant page numbers. —Zalktis (talk) 17:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. At the moment I'm using the version of the book pubished in Welsh. The English version folowed in 1981. My Welsh is non-existenet so the reference details are from the copy of the concert programme as an illustration between pages 32 and 33. Would it be better to wait till I get the English version back from my daughter in law, then I can quote the page number? Colinvlr (talk) 20:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the English-language version would be preferable as a source on EN Wikipedia. Let's return to this when you have the book in hand. —Zalktis (talk) 08:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Poraimos

In my language Poraimos means Rape. Many Roma protest against this term. Why is it used in Wiki if there exists a discussion on it? Could we rename the article, using any other term? (Samudaripen, Kali Tras, Genocide of Roma people). I can't look at that article because of its name, that hurts me. RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I understand, the etymology of "Porajmos" is "devouring" not "rape"; but then again, I am not a fluent Romani-speaker, and I do not know which branch of Romanes this etymology derives from. As for "Samudaripen", I believe Desiphral knows more about this term, and why it is not preferable. —Zalktis (talk) 08:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

See also the following article by Ian Hancock: On the interpretation of a word: Porrajmos as Holocaust. —Zalktis (talk) 14:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm a Vlax romni. Porajmos DOES mean rape. It DOES. Ian Hancock doesn't see anything bad in using "double-meaning words" for mass killing of Roma, but I was sure Wiki doesn't maintain such a view. If the word hurts those who understands it (Hancock, by the way, is not vlax!) why you use it here? What's the logic? Here we don't even use the word Gypsy for Romani people because a part of Romani people doesn't like this word - only a part! Why not the same with P word? RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Attacking Hancock for not being Vlax stikes me as being unconstructive in this context. Unfortunately, "Porajmos" has entered the literature and scholarship in English (USHMM, Kenrick festschrift, etc.), as well as in other languages. Gadže like myself have been repeatedly informed for the better part of ten years now that "Porajmos/Porrajmos/Poraimos" is the preferred term. As is often the case in Romani Studies, though, just because something is repeated many times, that does not necessarily make it correct. The best course of action would be for you to propose a WP:MOVE at Talk:Porajmos. Then perhaps a consensus can be reached around an article name that everyone can live with, maybe something like Nazi genocide of the Romani people, with corresponding redirects from Porajmos, Samudaripen, Kali Tras, etc. —Zalktis (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk)

As Professor Hancock is my father (the cunning linguist), I'll bring this to his attention, perhaps we can clarify this term and maybe even figure out a more appropriate one. I do agree that having the possible dual-meaning of "rape" is not a good thing, and certainly not appropriate to the subject. I've seen conflict over this word mentioned in many places, so perhaps something should be done. Also, please be aware that my father did NOT coin the term, but as a Romani scholar he is somewhat responsible for its (albeit ill) gain in popularity. Weasel5i2 (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

That shall be great if something will be changed! But I can't even imagine what Rom could use such a word... In Russia, we usually use terms "Roma Holocaust", "Kali Tras" and "Roma Genocide". RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC).

And I should ask him to forgive me about that silly joke on my name. "Khamoro" is quite a usually nickname for girls among Roma of Russia. I'm not a germaphrodite :) RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk)

Just a note: I think that my father discourages the use of "Gypsy" simply because it is a misnomer. From what he taught me, it was a name given to the Romani people by Gadže who incorrectly assumed that the Roma came from Egypt. The P-word issue, on the other hand, is not a matter of incorrect fact as much as it is a matter of opinions on which is the more appropriate term to use. I personally prefer Kali Traš myself. I did e-mail him and he replied with the same article posted above, which I also published on Google Docs (with permission): On the Interpretation of a Word: Porrajmos as Holocaust

Tentative Manual of Style

Proposal : That 'Roma' be generally deprecated as an adjective and the word 'Romani' substituted in Romani related articles. RashersTierney (talk) 13:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

This page can be a very lonely place. RashersTierney (talk) 23:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

It really can... Dahn (talk) 15:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Mahala Rai Banda

Any thoughts on this? (I know the article is terrible, but is the band itself notable?) - Biruitorul ^Talk 06:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Kalo as a group?

Perhaps we should make an umbrella article on the Romani sub-group Kalo, consisting of Kale (Welsh Romanies), Finnish Kale, Calé, as well as related groups Romnichals and Norwegian and Swedish Travellers? Along with the Sinti/Manouches and Roma sub-groups (for which there perhaps also now should be an umbrella article, now that Romani people has been renamed), the Kale are a significant branch of the European Romanis. To in support of this idea, I'd like to point out that Kenrick has an entry for "Kalo" to this effect in his Historical Dictionary of the Gypsies (Romanies), 2nd ed. (2007; ISBN 0810854686), p. 137. A possible name for the article could be Kalo (currently a redirect) or Kalo Romanies. —Zalktis (talk) 08:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I've now made a stub for the Kalo subgroup. —Zalktis (talk) 19:45, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Better Kale (plural) then Kalo (singular), how do you think? RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:11, 28 March 2009 (UTC).

WP 1.0 bot announcement

This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Romani people which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 06:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Romani people articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Romani people articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Queensland School for Travelling Show Children

This new article is obliquely associated with this project. With an AfD nom within hours of kick off it needs some defence. Any takers? Silent Billy (talk) 12:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Not all Romanies are of a stereotypical dark apperance should this be addressed?

I read the following quote by Félix Colson a French traveller (non Romani) who travelled throughout Romania in the 1839. He quotes "Their skins [Romanies] are hardly brown; some of them are blond and beautiful" as a reference to the romani populatuions diversity even in the Roma groups of the mid-19th century. This was quoted in the following link [[2]] page 218.

Even Romani authors have addressed the diversity found among different groups, such as Ian Hancock's We are the Romani people "Ame sam E Romanie dzene" 2002 [[3]] quoting in the introduction on a light skinned British Romanichal and Roma children; "These two young Romani children, one from Hungary, one from Britain reflect the wide range of physical type among our population." As there is no one standard look for the Romani people and having a diverse ethnic group within Europe and elswhere having lighter fairer skinned groups in Spain, Britain, Scandinavia, olive skinned or lighter looking Spanish Kale or even Roma for that matter as seen by Colson in 1839. Also darker pigmentation of other Roma and even in contrast the darker pigments as seen in the Turkish gypsies etc. The groups are all diverse and all considered Romanies with a physical apperences from blond and fair skinned to a darker look and share a common ancestoral lineage and a similar parallel could be seen in the diverse Jewish groups. Should we adderss this within the Romani people article?Uthican (talk) 08:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Jumping the broom

The Jumping the broom article handles the subject like a primarily, even exclusively, African American tradition. All reliable, scholarly evidence quoted in the actual article, however, indicates that the custom originated among Welsh and English Romanies (Welsh Kale and English Romanichals). The article lists the practice under African American topic. Since jumping the broom was practiced among British Romanies, associated with them and possibly originated among them, I find the lack of objectivity in the article to be misleading, and inaccurate. Please go to the Jumping the broom article and check out the discussion page for details. My posts are "Major problems with the article" and "Request to move and rename article." — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Peterson (talk • contribs) 01:46, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Sinti, Rom

Like in other wiki (it was like this in it.wiki) there is a confusion between Sinti, Rom and so on. In it.wiki we found references that let we write 3 goods article ((it:Zingari), (it:Rom (popolo)), (it:Sinti)). Zingari (=gipsy, gitans) is the name of "romanì popoulation", romanì popoluation is a name to refer to 4 etnical groups: Rom, Sinti, Kalè, Romanichales. I'll try to edit the page Sinti becouse it's a bit confused but please follow my edits becouse my english is not so good :-) --Ignlig (talk) 09:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

There are a lot of confusions about Gypsy names. Somee persons tried to falsify the names of Gypsy people in different countries and to show how many Gypsies are. Look at these false names: Carpatian Gypsy, Blax Gypsy, Balkan Gypsy etc. are the same name of Gypsies living in Romania. Intention was to fool all reading people. It is just like saying: There are Britons in England (60 milions) in UK (80 milions)in Albion (66 milions) in British islands (88 milions) in Anglia (50 milions) etc.Readder (talk) 09:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC) User: Readder, 2011Readder (talk) 09:54, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Correction and Replacement

"Romani flag created in 1933 and accepted by the 1971 World Romani Congress"

Could it be possible to replace Džej Ramadanovski and Drafi Deutscher - with August Krogh who is more important because he is a nobel prize winner and with Joaquín Cortés since he is internationally known for flamenco.

Dr.Marcu (talk) 11:50, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Sources

Hello, I would like to ask you for help. For some time I want to start writing article on Roma slavery in the Balkans and abolition of slavery. That seems like a very interesting topic. Do you have some open sources on this topic (in English, Serbo-croatian if not maybe in Macedonian, Bulgarian or maybe even some simple Russian)?--MirkoS18 (talk) 00:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Slavery in Romania should have the sort of material you have in mind. RashersTierney (talk) 01:13, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Roma vs. Romani

(See also Talk:Roma_(Romani_subgroup)#Roma_vs._Romani and Talk:Romani people#Subgroups )

In no literature I have found, there is a differetiation of Roma as a Romani "subgroup" as indicated in some articles on wikipedia (as in Romani People or Roma_(Romani_subgroup). In none of the citations there is any differentiation.

If there is indeed some differentiation like that in some literature, please bring it up, possibly with exact sentences (as I have found out on wikipedia, a lot of times the "citation" doesn't include the claims from wikipedia). --- Ɍưɳŋınɢ 18:11, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Romani people in Canada

• Romani people in Canada

Article needs expansion. Also need to know how many Roma are in Canada. The article gives the census number, but it also included Ronald Lee's estimate of 80,000. I removed that number however, since I don't know how reliable that opinion is. But what sources are there on the number of Roma people in Canada that are reliable? --Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Romani music

An IP editor keeps removing 'Romani music' from Template:Balkan music. Please keep an eye on the template. --Omnipaedista (talk) 04:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Olsonspterom remove it, propably because he raise the geographical qualification in an irrelevant complex of music. --109.242.103.100 (talk) 04:49, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Olsonspterom removed it without justification. Nobody ever said that this is a list of musical traditions by sovereign state. There is a strong tradition of Romani music in Southeastern Europe so it should be included in the template. Your comments about "irrelevance" and "geographical qualification" are not pertinent. --Omnipaedista (talk) 18:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Romani people listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Romani people to be moved to Gypsies. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 06:29, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

Romani people listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Romani people to be moved to Gypsies. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 06:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

Eleanor Smith listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Eleanor Smith to be moved to Eleanor Smith (writer). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:01, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

People who are held by governments as criminals or told that we are heald in fear of labor of persons from this company should know that roma and natives were emancipated from the bia and those policies . we are allowed to discuss our voter issues without being threatened. if there is a problem you should send letter to the governors office in masssachusetts to explain why roma or natives are a threat to copyright laws — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:199:8180:AB1:D1D1:8A4E:F386:E006 (talk) 20:48, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Stick together

To all my rom people, we need to stick together on wikipedia, I have tried and tried to write artciles on our Romany History, people gorgers dont understand, that our history can not be found with web content and that most travellers don't read or write. Please all help each other, need some help keeping the Darren M Jackson article. Any one rokker me through my chib page. kushti bok to all my penna and prala, and lets stop the kori sherrios from deleting our work.Diamonddannyboy (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 09:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a great problem to write about our history without references, but I have found out that there already exists many records of Romani history that were made by some Roma and Gadzhikane researches. Some of them are already published in the web by Russian romanologist Nickolai Bessonov. That's in Russian, but now we can tell that we use his works and put down links on his site, zigane.pp.ru RomanyChaj-रोमानीछाय (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

i think this forum on wikipedia is not productive for discussing issues that are in pending litigation . we might want to ask that wikipedia be given a restraining order for inciting a dispute in the wrong place — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:199:8180:AB1:D1D1:8A4E:F386:E006 (talk) 21:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Category:Romani people and Romanipen in Romania has been nominated for discussion

Category:Romani people and Romanipen in Romania, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 14:27, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

There is currently no page for The Dialect Of The English Gypsies by Wester Boswell &Co, - Despite this being one of the older and more noteworthy and oft-quoted written sources for Pogadi chib. Is it worthwhile me creating a page for it as part of this project? Also, is this project still active and are you accepting new members? Hachiwichi (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Eleanor Smith (writer) listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Eleanor Smith (writer) to be moved to Lady Eleanor Smith. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 17:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

RFC

There is a Request for Comments open at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Romani_people_in_Hungary#RFC_on_Hungarian_Romani . Robert McClenon (talk) 18:24, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Budapest serial killings listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Budapest serial killings to be moved to Serial murders of Roma in Hungary (2008-2009). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 06:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

International Roma Day Edit-a-thon (April 1st - 8th, 2021)

Hi all! Wikimedia Serbia is hosting a weeklong international edit-a-thon in honour of International Roma Day again this year. If you notice any Roma topics or people missing from the edit-a-thon lists, please feel free to add them! Hope to see everyone at the edit-a-thon! -Yupik (talk) 05:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the ping! I created World day of Romani language, and noticed there's a lone Spanish wiki article about Romani persecution, :es:Persecución de la etnia gitana which is closely related to Antiziganismo. Shushugah (talk) 20:04, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Shushugah:: Thanks for taking part and sorry for the slow reply. I really hope Wikimedia Serbia will arrange this edit-a-thon again next year! -Yupik (talk) 01:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Romani genocide listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Romani genocide to be moved to Porajmos. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 03:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

Dom people listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Dom people to be moved to Doms (Romani). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 14:04, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

Help on Eastern European languages

Hello!

Our of boredom, I am trying to identify the languages of inscriptions on a fountain located in central Budapest. I could easily identify some languages such as Hebrew, Armenian, Russian, English, French, Spanish etc. but I have trouble with some, mostly Slavic, languages which I do not speak myself. I guess that they must include Czech (or Slovak), Slovene, Croatian/Serbian/Bosniak, Macedonian, Bulgarian and/or maybe others.

Translations of 'The place is ours':

• Trg je naš / Площадьт е наш (pretty sure that's Bulgarian) / Naš trg / Nas trg / [unreadable] naše je námestie

Translations of 'Non potable water':

• Водата не е за пиене / Voda ni pitna / Непитна вода / Nepitná voda / Nepitka voda / Voda nije za piće

Translations of 'Open lawn':

• Ходенето по тревата е разрешено / Dozvoljeno je gaziti (ǧaziti?) po travi / Dozvoljeno gaženje trave

I also do not manage to identify the language in 3 other inscriptions for which glossaries easily available online did not help. Could it be Romani?

• Náj lasó ráji / Ámáro szi o placo / Pécsár saj ustarén

Is anyone here able to tell which is which? Note that many inscriptions (such as in French and Greek) have spelling mistakes and inconsistent respect of diacritics.

Pictures of the fountain:

• 
• 
• 
• 
• 
• 

Place Clichy (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Porajmos listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Porajmos to be moved to Romani Holocaust. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 13:02, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

To opt out of RM notifications on this page, transclude {{bots|deny=RMCD bot}}, or set up Article alerts for this WikiProject.

The Diddakoi

"Book article" The Diddakoi features a realistic children's novel set in England, which won the annual British-Isles Whitbread Award in 1972. Today I have expanded it, perhaps from a stub to a start, but chiefly with new references to its book and adaptation publishers.

Best wishes to revive your project in CoViD-19 pandemic Year 4. --P64 (talk) 13:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)