Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Psalms
Hebrew
[edit]El C, can you please do Psalm 69? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
The next 2 to be expanded are Psalm 146 and Psalm 115, because they will be linked from the TFA on 4 April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, is your changes to the TOS (heading/subheading) intentional? Also, for my own reference: perm link to 124-150. Anyway, below is your March 30 request. As for your April 4 requests: I already did 146 — would you like me to do 115? El_C 02:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- 115 instantly done! El_C 02:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Psalm 69 also taken with thanks! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for Psalm 12, and next time you can just overwrite the below when sure I took it. (Unless you dare to copy it right to the psalm article, - I see no danger, really ;) ) - I don't know which the next one will be. I go to church, and usually there is a psalm, and when we haven't improved it, that's the one, otherwise just the next missing in our list, which would be Psalm 14. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- But will it be all set up again? Asking for a fweind. El_C 09:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I could do that, but it would not be difficult to change the "12" to "14" (three times), and remove the present Hebrew by the new. I don't know how you work with the table. For English KJV, there's no table but I can copy the source text which has verse numbers, and replace them by our # sign, with the same result. The Hebrew has a table because initially it had an English translation, but - sad, sad, sad - that was removed as copyvio because Yoninah chose a better modern one. If we give up ever having a translation, we could probably handle the Hebrew the same way: just verse #. Very often the numbers are not the same for both, nor is the KJV a good translation of the Hebrew, - that's why they are below each other. Also, of course, with Hebrew written from right to left, it looks better right aligned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting. I've never read the KJV in full, but every couple of years I read the Hebrew Bible from cover to cover. KJV is what the Mimre Institute is using right? Not, say, the Tyndale Bible. ;) El_C 10:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Out of interest, what was the modern source that Yoninah was using? El_C 10:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- The KJV is Wikisoource, a historic Bible, with some old language. In Germany, in normal services it will be a newer translation than Martin Luther's. - I don't know exactly which source Yoninah used for a translation, but take about any psalm where not you added the Hebrew, and check the history for the revdel process. Or - perhaps better - check out the archive of Psalms, Talk:Psalms/Archive 2, - well, not better, didn't find it, possibly https://outskirtspress.com/ mentioned in archive 1. Perhaps check out her talk, or ask Diannaa. - I wonder why the archives don't show on the talk, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I could do that, but it would not be difficult to change the "12" to "14" (three times), and remove the present Hebrew by the new. I don't know how you work with the table. For English KJV, there's no table but I can copy the source text which has verse numbers, and replace them by our # sign, with the same result. The Hebrew has a table because initially it had an English translation, but - sad, sad, sad - that was removed as copyvio because Yoninah chose a better modern one. If we give up ever having a translation, we could probably handle the Hebrew the same way: just verse #. Very often the numbers are not the same for both, nor is the KJV a good translation of the Hebrew, - that's why they are below each other. Also, of course, with Hebrew written from right to left, it looks better right aligned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- But will it be all set up again? Asking for a fweind. El_C 09:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for Psalm 12, and next time you can just overwrite the below when sure I took it. (Unless you dare to copy it right to the psalm article, - I see no danger, really ;) ) - I don't know which the next one will be. I go to church, and usually there is a psalm, and when we haven't improved it, that's the one, otherwise just the next missing in our list, which would be Psalm 14. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- 115 instantly done! El_C 02:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Psalm 61 as a model
[edit]Hebrew Bible version
[edit]The following is the Hebrew text of Psalm 61:[1]
| Verse | Hebrew |
|---|---|
| 1 | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ עַל-נְגִינַת לְדָוִד |
| 2 | .שִׁמְעָה אֱלֹהִים, רִנָּתִי; הַקְשִׁיבָה, תְּפִלָּתִי |
| 3 | ;בַּעֲטֹף לִבִּי בְּצוּר-יָרוּם מִמֶּנִּי תַנְחֵנִי
.בְּצוּר-יָרוּם מִמֶּנִּי תַנְחֵנִי |
| 4 | .ד כִּי-הָיִיתָ מַחְסֶה לִי; מִגְדַּל-עֹז, מִפְּנֵי אוֹיֵב |
| 5 | .ה אָגוּרָה בְאָהָלְךָ, עוֹלָמִים; אֶחֱסֶה בְסֵתֶר כְּנָפֶיךָ סֶּלָה |
| 6 | .ו כִּי-אַתָּה אֱלֹהִים, שָׁמַעְתָּ לִנְדָרָי; נָתַתָּ יְרֻשַּׁת, יִרְאֵי שְׁמֶךָ |
| 7 | .ז יָמִים עַל-יְמֵי-מֶלֶךְ תּוֹסִיף; שְׁנוֹתָיו, כְּמוֹ-דֹר וָדֹר |
| 8 | .ח יֵשֵׁב עוֹלָם, לִפְנֵי אֱלֹהִים; חֶסֶד וֶאֱמֶת, מַן יִנְצְרֻהוּ |
| 9 | .ט כֵּן אֲזַמְּרָה שִׁמְךָ לָעַד-- לְשַׁלְּמִי נְדָרַי, יוֹם יוֹם |
Please check, EL C, and make a new corrected version below so I can see the difference. I don't know if I should do something about what looks like extra blanks to me. The Psalm 62 example doesn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
Done. Looks good. Sorry for the belated review. El_C 18:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- I am so proud! - Anything to add to Shalom chaverim? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Psalms Chapter 61 תְּהִלִּים". mechon-mamre.org. Retrieved 23 November 2023.