Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norse history and culture/Archive3

Haraldskær Woman

I'm bringing this articles GA Sweeps review, which can be found here, to the attention of this project. The article has been placed on hold pending some attention to citations. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Infobox for Norse deities

Can be an infobox for Norse deities be designed or existant? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Norse history and culture

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Interesting metrics. Haukur (talk) 23:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I certainly hope items that have been tagged for improvements are not included in this. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Rule of Norway 1012-1015/16

There are some discrepancies in the information on the rule of Norway between 1012 and 1015/16. I wish to put the correct information in the article for Canute the Great. I do not know of any definitive sources though. I suspect the info in the article is already right, although its contradictin in the Eirikr Hakonarson article worries me. Please refer to the talk page on the Cnut article. Thanks. WikieWikieWikie (talk) 22:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe someone who is not "tainted" by being "Nordic" could help out in this dispute

Rokus01 has been in a dispute with me and Dbachmann during a few days. Rokus01 is polarizing his own theory that the Dutch are West Germanic since the stone age with the (mainstream and traditional) "tainted" "Nordic" theory that the Germanic tribes had their origins in the Jastorf culture and the Nordic Bronze Age. He claims to know what is the modern view of things and what is obsolete but he shows a surprising lack of familiarity with archaeological terminology and when opposed he pleads what has been called "the crank's last resort", i.e. that "everything is uncertain". He also refers to sources which have little to do with his claims (e.g. Looijenga's work on runes). I find his argumentation both incoherent and confusing and would rather someone with an interest in the time period, and who is not anything as horrible as "Nordic" read his contributions.--Berig 12:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Even being mostly Irish, I would have to agree with Dbachmann. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 21:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

Hey,

I've been recently assessing articles that have the WikiProject template, but no assessment, and have found the task quite daunting. Is anyone interested in helping me/ ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 21:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Hundings, Wulfings, Langobards etc

I wound up visiting Hundings today while looking for Wolf clans as I'll be starting a disambig or list under that title, and found taht Hunding hadn't had a WP attached to it; I added the Middle Ages WP and origianlly WP:Germany - not because I wanted to but because it was on Talk:Nibelungenlied - I looked for something from the same time-period/mythic-era......but I replaced WP:Germany with this WP's template s the Huding/Wulfing story is in teh Poetic Edda and other Norse sources......but it seems to me that there's a "crossover" between Norse, (South/East) Germanic, and Anglo-Saxon cultures, esp. before 700 or so....what about "WikiProject Early Germanic peoples} or maybe a sub-wikiproject, workgroup, or "task force" where parallel materials can be melded/correlated/improved....Volsungasaga, for exasmple, involves the Ostrogoths and burgundians, just as the Hunding/Wulfing story involves the Langobards; Beowulif is an English/Angls-Saxon tale about Geats and Danes....I hope you see where I'm going with this, or mabye it's obvious.....thoughts?Skookum1 (talk) 20:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Germanic studies. We have not been too active lately, though. Main contributors are away and inactive, so the project has gone into some sort of hybernating state right now. Feel free to air your ideas at the talk page there. –Holt T•C 20:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Norse Runestone in the Midwest

Anyone know any more information about the Vérendrye Runestone, the one reported by French Canadian explorer Pierre Gaultier de Varennes et de la Vérendrye, in the 1730s? I think its interesting that Vérendrye didn't know what it was, and that the Jesuit priests thought that it was Tartarian, ie: Tatar alphabet#Cyrillic_version, Old Hungarian script#Characters, and Old Turkic script#Table_of_characters. I just found out about this, and am very interested if there's any other evidence--perhaps supressed by scholars dismissal-happy following the hoax of the Kensington Runestone The Vérendrye Runestone doesn't appear to be a hoax since the hoaxers had no idea of what they were hoaxing... TeamZissou (talk) 05:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

GA sweeps: Gnezdovo

Hello, as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force, I have conducted a Good Article reassessment of Gnezdovo. I have a few concerns that should be addressed if the article is to remain listed as a GA. If anyone is able to help out, the reassessment can be found here. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 18:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

naming conventions - Þ and ð

A lot of the articles incorporate Þ and ð into the names, for example Þorgerður Egilsdóttir. This principal, however, is applied inconsistently, and other articles such as Thorolf Kveldulfsson do not contain either eth or thorn. Since this is the English-language encyclopedia, I propose that we come up with some consistent naming convention for Þ and ð, either both rendered "Th" or Þ as "th" and ð as "d" or "dh". the proper Norse form with the Þ and ð could be incorporated in the opening line of the article. Any thoughts? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 16:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Probably a good idea, since I don't think many people type Þ or ð into the the search box. By the way, as you're going through renaming, if you do, it would be very nice if you also assessed the articles per our rating scale. Thanks, ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 20:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I feel that we should stick with the Þ and ðs. Transmogrifying these names only causes unnecessary confusion. A simple redirect solves any issues that may appear with people typing anglicized and variant forms into the search box. :bloodofox: (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

We already have Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Norse mythology). I'm surprised that it isn't linked to on the project page, but I'll amend it right away.--Berig (talk) 14:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I would oppose any blanket transliteration of 'þ' and 'ð'. As it is, we have transliteration for those names commonly used in English (Thor rather than Þórr) and not for more obscure entitites (Höðr rather than Hödr or Höthr or Höd or Hodur or Hodr or Hoder or what have you). Haukur (talk) 15:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Though, as a side note, I usually don't rename articles unless I've been working on them. I know Briangotts tends to use very Anglicized forms for the articles he writes (no diacritics, nominative endings removed etc.) and I'd rather not irritate him by showing up with the bulldozer. So I haven't moved Olvir Hnufa to Ölvir Hnúfa. On the other hand Briangotts hasn't moved my Hallvarðr Háreksblesi article to, say, Hallvarth Hareksblesi. I long ago reached the conclusion that full consistency between articles is impossible to achieve on Wikipedia and shouldn't be strived for at the cost of collegiality. Haukur (talk) 15:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think the naming conventions page cited by Berig answers my question. Perhaps we should adopt a substantially identical policy for all Old Norse articles? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

We could simply move it to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Old Norse).--Berig (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)