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To User:Gavin.collins. Your activites have made Wikipedia much less user friendly for everyone involved in Dungeons & Dragons articles.[1] The members of the Dungeons & Dragons WikiProject hereby ask you to Cease and Desist your disruptive editing, for the following reasons:

  1. Per The Five Pillars, Wikipedia incorporates elements of both general encyclopedias and specialized encyclopedias, which means that articles on Dungeons & Dragons subjects are not disallowed. Although a fair number of them need work, deleting the articles would go against this spirit of building of a specialized encyclopedia.
  2. You often tag numerous articles each day with the {{notability}} template, often bundling it with {{in-universe}}, {{Primarysources}}, {{Nofootnotes}}, {{context}}, {{plot}}, {{Original research}}, and others,[2] sometimes incorrectly.[3][4][5] There are only a few active members of the Dungeons & Dragons WikiProject, and the sheer volume of your tagging places an excessive burden on these few editors. They cannot hope to fix those articles at that same speed with which you tag them, which will result in some articles' deletion despite the best efforts of the WikiProject to cleanup and reference the articles.
  3. You appear to adamantly stand by the letter of the Wikipedia's notability guideline; WP policy says that you should interpret the intent, not the letter, of a rule.
  4. You misuse the {{notability}} template when you should be using the {{importance}} template for many articles.[6] Your insistence on using the {{notability}} over the {{importance}} template appears to be directly related to the deletion aspect of said former template.
  5. You have, in many cases, called certain reliable secondary sources "primary sources" or "self-published," even when they obviously meet the criteria for reliable secondary sources.[7] You also regularly overlook reliable secondary sources when adding the {{notability}} template.[8]
  6. You have done next to no editing on Dungeons & Dragons articles except to add cleanup tags to them, leaving the harder work for other people.
  7. It appears that you do not read articles before adding the tags.[9][10]
  8. In the time of about 1 year, you have edited practically no Wikipedia articles other than to tag Dungeons & Dragons articles or to discuss Wikipedia policies and guidelines.[11]
  9. You have admitted that you know very little about Dungeons & Dragons, and yet you give the impression that you think you know more about them than members of the WikiProject.
  10. When members of the WikiProject have attempted to reason with you and come to a logical consensus, you have been resistant to any view but your own.[12]
  11. You appear to believe yourself to always be correct on a topic even when faced with proof that you are wrong.[13]
  12. You appear not to assume good faith in dealing with editors who do disagree with you, and often accuse other editors who may be acting in good faith of vandalism[14] or conflict of interest[15] with little evidence to support your accusations.[16]
  13. The above points have given the impression to many of the members of the Dungeons & Dragons WikiProject that you have a particularly strong dislike or hatred of Dungeons & Dragons and have an interest in only seeing these articles reduced and removed.

You are welcome to edit any article on Wikipedia in the spirit of cooperation and consensus. However, a failure to Cease and Desist your pattern of behavior towards the D&D WikiProject's members and the articles they support will call for more drastic action on the part of the WikiProject, as per Wikipedia rules and procedures warrant.

The following users have signed this warning as being accurate, and will support whatever actions are needed to follow up on its warning if you do not stop immediately:

Notes

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  1. ^ This is evident here.
  2. ^ this edit you made to Celene (Greyhawk).
  3. ^ The discussion at Talk:Empire of Iuz#Plot template.
  4. ^ The discussion User talk:Gavin.collins/Archive 7#Original Research tags.
  5. ^ The discussion at Talk:D'hin'ni#Removal of cleanup templates. You can see a comparison of the article immediately before and after the tags were removed here.
  6. ^ For examples, see this and this; on this and this there was already an importance template when you added the notability template.
  7. ^ The discussion at Talk:Dan Willis.
  8. ^ this edit of Dinosaur (Dungeons & Dragons), when you first applied the {{notability}} tag to it. At the time, the article had six reliable secondary sources.
  9. ^ The following quote, taken from here: "I monitored his [Gavin's] contribs and found out that his tagging methods are roughly in minute intervals. This gives me the reason to believe that he does not research the notability of articles at all or even try to work with other editors. I believe this is not simply a case of deleting cruft but deleting an entire genre. As an editor that deals with tagged articles, I know that it is very easy to tag but it is very hard to remove it. With Gavin's tagging spree, I will not be surprised if the RPG wikiproject is overwhelmed."
  10. ^ My (User:Drilnoth's) on research into your contributions shows that you made this edit, this edit, and this edit within a 1 minute period of time.
  11. ^ This is evident from a look at your contributions.
  12. ^ For an example, see this.
  13. ^ This discussion regarding an RPG designer and head publisher of Paizo Publishing.
  14. ^ This post at AIV regarding an IP address user who has replaced your {{notability}} tags with {{importance}} tags. You gave no warning the the user that you would file the complaint, and therefore the request for intervention was later declined.
  15. ^ here you accuse another user of COI
  16. ^ here [1] you accuse the editor of hiding something.