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Introduction

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The purpose of this discussion page is to manage the Level 2 list of 100 topics for which Wikipedia should have high-quality articles (e.g. at WP:FA and WP:GA status). Since changes to this list affect lower-level lists, discussions regarding its composition are best initiated at Wikipedia talk:Vital articles.

All Level 2 nominations must be of an article already listed at level 3.

All proposals must remain open for !voting for a minimum of 15 days, after which:

  1. After 15 days it may be closed as PASSED if there are (a) 5 or more supports, AND (b) at least two-thirds are in support.
  2. After 30 days it may be closed as FAILED if there are (a) 3 or more opposes, AND (b) it failed to earn two-thirds support.
  3. After 30 days it may be closed as NO CONSENSUS if the proposal hasn't received any !votes for +30 days, regardless of tally.
  4. After 60 days it may be closed as NO CONSENSUS if the proposal has (a) less than 5 supports, AND (b) less than two-thirds support.

Nominations should be left open beyond the minimum if they have a reasonable chance of passing. An informed discussion with more editor participation produces an improved and more stable final list, so be patient with the process.

For reference, the following times apply for today:

  • 15 days ago was: 00:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC) (Purge)
  • 30 days ago was: 00:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
  • 60 days ago was: 00:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Swap Sport  2 with Play (activity)  3

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Play is an activity that is much less formal then sport, but engaged in by all as both entertainment and a way of learning. Play is not exclusive to humans, and is a higher category then sport, which is a form of highly structured play. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 23:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support
  1. as nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 23:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  1. There's not too much difference between play and Entertainment, which is already listed as the broadest container in this area. Sport is important enough to include as a subtopic at this level, so I don't think it'd be an improvement to try to zoom out to play. Sdkb talk 00:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Weak oppose. Idiosincrático (talk) 19:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Per SdkbQuestions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 00:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discuss

Swap City  2 with Human settlement  5

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Consensus that human settlement is level 4 and level 3 needs to be achieved before considering it for level 2.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

In another discussion this came up, but is a glaring issue I think we should address. The concept of the "city" is ambiguous, and overly narrow. A city is a type of Human settlement  5 that is relatively new, and the majority of humans in history have not lived in what we consider to be urban cities. Cities are big and obvious, but only one type of human settlement. I base this argument on Wikipedia:Vital articles#What makes an article "vital"?.

1: Human settlement is broader in its scope then city, and encompasses cities.
2: Human settlement is vital to other Wikipedia articles, such as Town  4, Hamlets. Human settlement can also be applied to semi-permanent settlments, like Military camp or {Military base  5. Most human settlements in history are not cities, and most people did not live in cities until recently.
3: Both are notable, but cities being notable contributes to the notability of human settlment, as cities ARE human settlments.
4: The emphasis on cities as a form of settlement might be a bias towards the post colonial European view of the world.
5: City gets more pageviews, but not by such a large margin that I'd consider it to outweigh the fact cities are a subset of settlements.

GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 19:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support
  1. as nom GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 19:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral
Discuss
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