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Today's featured article for November 23, 2024

Newman as part of a Canadian media delegation to China.

Sydney Newman (April 1, 1917 – October 30, 1997) was a Canadian film and television producer who played a pioneering role in British television and Canadian cinema. During the 1950s and 60s, he held the role of Head of Drama at ABC Weekend TV and later at the BBC. During this time, he created the spy-fi series The Avengers and co-created the science-fiction series Doctor Who. After his return to Canada in 1970, Newman was appointed acting director of the Broadcast Programs Branch for the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission and then head of the National Film Board of Canada. He also occupied senior positions at the Canadian Film Development Corporation and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as well as acting as an advisor to the Secretary of State. His obituary in The Guardian declared that "for ten brief but glorious years, [he] ... was the most important impresario in Britain ... His death marks... the laying to rest of a whole philosophy of popular art." (Full article...)

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Picture of the day for November 23, 2024

The Finding in the Temple, also called Christ among the Doctors, the Disputation in the Temple and variations of those names, is an episode in the early life of Jesus depicted in chapter 2 of the Gospel of Luke. It is the only event of the later childhood of Jesus mentioned in a canonical gospel. In the episode, Jesus – at the age of twelve – accompanies Mary, Joseph, and a large group of their relatives and friends to Jerusalem on many pilgrimages. On the day of their return, Jesus remained in the Temple. Mary and Joseph returned home believing he was among their group when he was not. After a day of travel they realised Jesus was missing and returned to Jerusalem, finding him three days later. He was found in the Temple in discussion with the elders, "listening to them and asking them questions". When admonished by Mary, Jesus replied: "How is it that you sought me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?" The Finding in the Temple is frequently shown in art. This representation, titled The Finding of the Saviour in the Temple, is an oil-on-canvas painting produced by William Holman Hunt in 1860. It now hangs in the Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery in Birmingham, England.

Photograph credit: William Holman Hunt

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2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Doctor Who (maintenance); EgyptAir Flight 648 (maintenance); Maguindanao massacre (maintenance)
Omitted: Manchester Martyrs; Abyssinia Crisis; Ellen Johnson Sirleaf
Included: Edwin Hubble (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total; moved from December 30); Cocos (Keeling) Islands (first appearance); Bombardment of Yeonpyeong (first appearance)
Repeats: William M. Tweed (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Deleted: China and the United Nations (also featured on October 25)
New articles (ineligible): Holodomor (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Il Canto degli Italiani (moved from November 17)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Maguindanao massacre
Omitted: William M. Tweed; Cocos (Keeling) Islands; Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961; Bombardment of Yeonpyeong
Included: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (first appearance); Manchester Martyrs (5th appearance, last in 2011); IBM Simon (first appearance); Ali Abdullah Saleh/Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi (both: first appearance)
Repeats: Edwin Hubble (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:30, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): An Unearthly Child/Doctor Who; Eduard Shevardnadze
Omitted: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John; Manchester Martyrs; IBM Simon; Ali Abdullah Saleh/Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi
Included: Perkin Warbeck (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); William M. Tweed (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Abyssinia Crisis (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Maguindanao massacre (first appearance)
Repeats: Edwin Hubble (3rd appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:28, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Perkin Warbeck; William M. Tweed; Edwin Hubble; Abyssinia Crisis; Maguindanao massacre
Included: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Manchester Martyrs (6th appearance, last in 2013); Doctor Who (4th appearance, last in 2010; blurb previously also featured An Unearthly Child, which is currently ineligible); Cocos (Keeling) Islands(2nd appearance, last in 2012; 60th anniversary); Ellen Johnson Sirleaf (4th appearance, last in 2011; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 11:43, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: William M. Tweed (maintenance); Abyssinia Crisis (maintenance)
Omitted: Manchester Martyrs; Cocos (Keeling) Islands (ineligible—maintenance); Doctor Who; Ellen Johnson Sirleaf
Included: Perkin Warbeck (2nd appearance, last in 2014); 1980 Irpinia earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 (4th appearance, last in 2012); Il Canto degli Italiani (first appearance)
Repeats: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:48, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ERRORS, I have removed National Sovereignty Day in Argentina, which is celebrated on 20 November, and moved Abyssinia Crisis to ineligible because of the number of "citation needed" tags. I replaced it with Il Canto degli Italian. Bencherlite ^Talk 09:17, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Bombardment of Yeonpyeong (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Miley Cyrus
Omitted: Saint George's Day (ineligible—maintenance); Perkin Warbeck (ineligible—maintenance); 1733 slave insurrection on St. John; 1980 Irpinia earthquake; Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961; Il Canto degli Italiani
Included: Manchester Martyrs (7th appearance, last in 2015; 150th anniversary); William M. Tweed (4th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Edwin Hubble (6th appearance, last in 2014); IBM Simon (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary); MV Explorer (1969) (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 10th anniversary); Richard Hakluyt (first appearance); Mary Brewster Hazelton (first appearance); Mary Whitehouse (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 09:03, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not listing Thanksgiving for an unreferenced section on Sports? -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:36, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@JHunterJ: Correct, alas. —howcheng {chat} 19:52, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like a poster child example for a time to ignore all rules. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:38, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Doctor Who (maintenance); Ellen Johnson Sirleaf (maintenance)
Omitted: William M. Tweed; IBM Simon; MV Explorer (1969); Richard Hakluyt; Mary Brewster Hazelton; Mary Whitehouse
Included: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (4th appearance, last in 2016); Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 (5th appearance, last in 2016); Il Canto degli Italiani (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Jean-Baptiste Jourdan (first appearance); Shangguan Yunzhu (first appearance); Miley Cyrus (first appearance)
Repeats: Manchester Martyrs (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total); Edwin Hubble (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:59, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

New articles (unused): Jacques Mayol
Omitted: Manchester Martyrs; Edwin Hubble; Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961; Il Canto degli Italiani; Jean-Baptiste Jourdan; Shangguan Yunzhu; Miley Cyrus
Included: William M. Tweed (5th appearance, last in 2017); IBM Simon (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Maguindanao massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Eadred (first appearance); Prospero Alpini (first appearance); Mary Landrieu (first appearance)
Repeats: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 (maintenance)
Omitted: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John; IBM Simon; Maguindanao massacre; Eadred; Prospero Alpini; Mary Landrieu
Included: Manchester Martyrs (9th appearance, last in 2018); An Unearthly Child (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); 1980 Irpinia earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 40th anniversary); MV Explorer (1969) (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Jean-Baptiste Jourdan (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Anne Burns (first appearance); Yusof Ishak (first appearance; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: William M. Tweed (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:21, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Omitted: William M. Tweed; An Unearthly Child; 1980 Irpinia earthquake; MV Explorer (1969); Jean-Baptiste Jourdan; Anne Burns; Yusof Ishak
Included: 1733 slave insurrection on St. John (6th appearance, last in 2019); Edwin Hubble (8th appearance, last in 2018); Jacques Mayol (first appearance); Ali Abdullah Saleh/Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2013); Beatriz Galindo (first appearance); El Lissitzky (first appearance); Mary Whitehouse (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: Manchester Martyrs (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:28, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]