Wikipedia talk:Peer review/List of awards and nominations received by Madhuri Dixit/archive1
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[edit]- Appreciate your interest in developing this article. But I don't think these kind of lists on Indian celebrities are FL worthy, since there is no complete set of data available on the internet/books; they fail to meet the 3(a) criterion. You need to mention each and every major award that the celebrity has won. I'm not sure whether Madhuri herself would be having a complete set of awards that she has won till date. I'm not discouraging you; I've had a similar experience with the actor with most wins in India and almost gave up in the end. —Vensatry (Ping me) 05:27, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- Duhh, that is why the {{dynamic list}} tag on top of the article. Any award and nomination page is a dynamic list and is subject to change. It is complete and notable to the point now with reliable sources. Non-notable awards are not added and neither they can be encyclopedic. Kamal Hassan's list failed because of bad reference sourcing and formatting, and general prose glitch as pointed out by Legolas2186, Bill William Compton and The Rambling Man. Oh and you got 3a completely wrong and to explain it, read the bolded parts carefully: "It comprehensively covers the defined scope, providing at least all of the major items and, where practical, a complete set of items; where appropriate, it has annotations that provide useful and appropriate information about the items." —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:43, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm very well aware of the 3(a) criteria, without which I would've never gotten five FLs. From your explanations, I can very well say that you miss a major point here; I'm not willing to explain though. You talk about notable awards and the page is flooded with many unnotable awards; to name a few, "Giants International Award", "Platinum Diva Award", "Smita Patil Memorial Award", "Master Deenanath Mangeshkar Vishesh Award", "Kalabhinetri Awards" are notable according to you. Also you've added retrospectives and polls which doesn't fit in this category. I'd suggest you to change the title of the page if you want all these here. Finally, it's not that I couldn't rectify those formatting and prose issues in the Kamal Haasan page and renominate it after a year. There was a problem with the 3(a) criteria. —Vensatry (Ping me) 14:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- The awards that you pointed out, yes they are notable since they covered and noted in reliable third party sources. If you have any criticism for bettering the article, please say it, instead of trying to belittle the attempt at improving it. And yes, again, the Kamal Hassan page does not violate 3a, and you missed another point again. All these award lists are dynamic, they will never be complete and is always a work in progress. Since there aren't any lists pertaining to awards won by movie artist, I will turn to the music artist pages, like Chris Brown, Madonna (recent most example), Kanye West etc. most of them are in a similar format. The Madonna one being the recent most is a good example that these lists are always an evolving list. If you are suggesting to change the name of the page, I very well welcome the suggestion and request you to place your thoughts on this matter. After all, the page, the awards, the nominations, they all pass notability—and I myself have personally removed all those awards which are non-notable and could not be verified by third party reliable sources. So, yeah, thanks for your comments, but this page is for peer reviewing the article for further improvement, let's just stick to that. May be you are thinking something along the lines of List of accolades received by David Lynch → List of accolades received by Madhuri Dixit? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)