Wikipedia talk:Outing (essay)
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What is this?
[edit]Is it an essay, a guideline, a proposal? A.Z. 17:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Someone just added the essay tag. A.Z. 00:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Should WP:Privacy be merged here
[edit]I wasted a lot of time on WP:Privacy, and asked a question there, before I found this one. And I see you have a section on Wikipedia:OUTING#Posting_of_personal_information that could be expanded a bit. Just in case anyone wants to merge them to avoid confusion by people researching these issues. Thanks. Carol Moore 22:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)CarolMooreDC talk
Requested move 8 November 2024
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Wikipedia:Outing (essay) → ? – This essay currently has rather poor visibility, and I believe its title is to blame. For one, adding a hatnote to the target of Wikipedia:Outing and Wikipedia:OUTING to refer back to this essay seems like it would cause more confusion than help, especially given the already-large stack of hatnotes at that target. For two, this essay may be outdated, given it was created in 2006 and its most recent edit was in 2013; due to this, it seems some of the claims in the essay may be inaccurate since Wikipedia has advanced some of its policies since then. In a nutshell, I'm opening this move request since a new title for this page is a start, though not necessarily the end nor the only fix. Steel1943 (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 17:48, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Indifferent, but leaving a suggestion for at least a conversation. Suggesting Wikipedia:False and malicious outing based on my reading of the essay. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- As I read this essay, I alternately agreed with some parts and was baffled by others. As a whole, it is quite far from the current realities and practice of Wikipedia. Its poor visibility is therefore not an issue. If we're going to return it to relevance by linking to it from a policy page (which I oppose), it would need a hefty rewrite. Perhaps its better off being marked as "archived" or deleted. Toadspike [Talk] 17:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's telling that this essay quotes a user who made a total of 144 edits, the last of which was on 19 December 2003. Although the last sentence of the quote is a correct observation that I hope applies to Wikipedia, the first part of the quote claims that some fairly reprehensible behavior "raise[s] fewer ethical questions", which I find extremely distasteful. Toadspike [Talk] 17:28, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment this is a very old essay, is basically abandoned and probably should be labeled as such. The title isn't really the problem, but rather that there isn't any true inbound links - such as a hatnote at WP:Outing or any other place. Plus the article itself could use a good deal of updating/revision. TiggerJay (talk) 02:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I would normally agree that the title of this is less relevant than the content, which could probably use a once-over, but since we have the shortcut WP:OUTING which does not lead to this essay, I would suggest an alternative title to resolve that possible ambiguity. As to which, I don't have a strong opinion, but Wikipedia:False and malicious outing would be a good choice. ASUKITE 16:09, 30 November 2024 (UTC)