Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Tornado/archive2
CCI check (done)
[edit]Checks per Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Pre-FAR2 version: 2021-12-23 1061717156
- General Earwig
- Public domain web.archive.org/web/20060929185156/http://www.spc.ncep.noaa.gov/faq/tornado [1]
- Public domain spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/#The%20Basics [2]
- General Earwig
- FAR1 version: 2009-12-17 332202860
- General Earwig, blog copying Wikipedia, right down to the structure and hatnotes
- FA version: 2007-03-26 117906714
- General Earwig, nothing new
- Pre-FAC version: 2007-02-26 110988175
- Croation survival school ... https://www.extremesurvive.com/archive/survival-urban-tips/tornado-survival not at archive.org until 2020 [3] [4]
- GA version: 2007-01-18 101461715
- Aminoapps again, rest same [5]
- Pre-GA version: 2006-11-18 88549852
- General Earwig
- Juliantrubin.com took from Wikipedia
- Aminoapps most likely took from Wikipedia, but I can't prove it, not archived, need to go back and see how duplicated content was built
- Public domain spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado identified in current version: [6]
- General Earwig
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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Copying within
[edit]Pre-FAR2 version
[edit]13:26 2021-12-23 1061717156
CWW on Convective storm detection, Tornado climatology, Tornado records, Tornadogenesis SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC) |
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FA version
[edit]03:03, 2007-03-26 117906714
Everything already found or attributed correctly, except Tornado preparedness SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC) |
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GA version
[edit]01:12, 2007-01-18 101461715
All copying within correctly attributed except Tornadogenesis SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Templates
[edit]- Added to article talk: [72] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Attributed in edit summary: [73] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:56, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
![]() | Text has been copied to or from this page; see the list below. The source pages now serve to provide attribution for the content in the destination pages and must not be deleted as long as the copies exist. For attribution and to access older versions of the copied text, please see the history links below.
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![]() | Text and/or other creative content from this version of Tornado was copied or moved into Convective storm detection with this edit on 20:31, July 14, 2007. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
![]() | Text and/or other creative content from this version of Tornado was copied or moved into Tornado climatology with this edit on 22:19, November 14, 2009. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
![]() | Text and/or other creative content from this version of Tornado was copied or moved into Tornado records with this edit on 22:24, November 14, 2009. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
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SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Public domain notice needed
[edit]- web.archive.org/web/20060929185156/http://www.spc.ncep.noaa.gov/faq/tornado [74]
- spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/#The%20Basics [75]
- To check 3367563 (Unable to locate possible copyvio)
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Copyvio or close paraphrasing
[edit]None found, other than public domain. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Time tracking sample
[edit]- 2021-12-23 – 32 mins – set up, gather diffs on old versions, list sub-articles, repair articlehistory to find old GA noms, 14:55 to 15:27
- 2021-12-26 – 58 mins - do basic Earwig checks for all previous versions, add {{Pd-notice}} on NOAA sites used, no copyvio found, 3:17 to 4:15
- 2021-12-27 – 1 hour, 46 mins – starting on copying within, 00:35 to 02:21, got only a start
- 2021-12-27 – 2 hours, 25 mins – Earwig timing out, 15:20 to 17:45, two left to run at GA version
- 2021-12-28 – 2 hours, 45 mins – 0 UTC to 02:45, one CWW left to check, then to add all templates and null edits
- 2021-12-28 – 1 hour, 30 mins – 0 started at 13:35, finished at 15:05
Total time, about 10 hours. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Summary
[edit]An interesting finding was that multiple editors were correctly attributing in edit summary as early as 2005 and 2006 (1), 2006 (2), so those didn't need to be templated. Several instances of copying within without attribution occurred during the 2009 FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:06, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Completed. With public domain text now attributed, this article meets FA criterion 1f.
- It took about ten hours to complete this work; the time was inflated because of the very high number of sub-articles in a summary style overview FA. In a more typical article, with only three or four summarized sub-articles, hopefully the work can be done in about four hours.
- When I was almost done with this work, as requested on the FAR page by Hurricane Noah, I discovered that this suite of articles is not included in the CCI (see Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones#Tornado). Nonetheless, with the similar histories, the same work is and was needed.
- I did not encounter any copyvio from non-public domain sources.
- On public domain sources, I found attribution needed with {{Pd-notice}} at Tornado, and I incidentally came across this edit at Tornado preparedness, and added the public domain attribution there.
- Other than what I encountered incidentally while browsing edit histories, I did not complete any additional investigation on the sub-articles.
- I found many instances of copying within (CWW); some were correctly attributed with a link in edit summary, and others were not. I did not find content copied in to Tornado; all instances I found were of content copied from Tornado to sub-articles. Of note, it takes just as much time to investigate those that are correctly attributed as those that are not, so it might be helpful to add talk page templates even when correctly attributing. I want to thank and acknowledge editors Beland, Dan100, and Forderud for correctly attributing CWW over a decade ago, and remind editors Thegreatdr, Evoluaxia, and Runningonbrains to review WP:CWW and the work needed here to track down unattributed copying within.
- It is my hope that this page, although an exaggeration of the amount of work that will be needed in less highly summarized articles, will provide an example of the work needed throughout weather articles. Hopefully that work can be done before articles appear at FAC, FAR, and GA processes in the future, to assure that compliance with copyright policy is met per WP:WIAFA and WP:WIAGA. As content review processes check for copyright policy compliance, it is important to realize that violations can be obscured via the extreme amount of copyediting that is done during content review processes, so previous versions need to be checked.
@Sennecaster and Moneytrees: for review of my work. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- See centralized discussion at WT:FAC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- @SandyGeorgia Wow, this is a really extensive and impressive review, I have no issues with it. My only recommendation would be turning off the "use search engine" feature with Earwig, since in my experience it only really finds mirrors and wastes time. It's only useful in situational circumstances, like if you're looking at the edits of a user who doesn't consistently cite their sources or if you're trying to intentionally find mirrors. Sorry again for not responding so quick... I've been occupied over the holidays and have been taking some time off to recover from an illness. I promise I'll get to these over the next few days and help out. Moneytrees🎄Talk/CCI guide 05:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip, Moneytrees, and thanks for checking in on my work. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)