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- If someone wants to add it I won't object, but I find it's more often than not done poorly. Nikkimaria (talk)
- There are an awful lot of acronyms introduced parenthetically and never used again. Do they help the reader?
- Took out a few. Nikkimaria (talk)
- "longitudinal": might be overlinking
- Winnipeg is the seventh-largest municipality in Canada: probably want an "as of" for that
- the Winnipeg Blue Bombers (football): should specify Canadian football. Otherwise, readers will assume it's ... soccer.
- a location currently known as "The Forks": has it been known as "The Forks" for long? If it's not a recent name, I'd drop "currently". Also, is this different from The Forks, Winnipeg?
- a transcription of the western Cree word wi-nipe-k meaning: that should be Western Cree, and the link should be to Cree language
- engaging in farming activity along the Red River. The practice of gardening quickly caught on: are "farming" and "gardening" referring to the same thing here?
- hunted, traded, and lived in the area: I'd drop "lived"—I think it it's implied.
- Disagree on this point - hunters and traders could range over a very wide area, but they did not live on all of that land. Nikkimaria (talk)
- fought at the Battle of Seven Oaks in 1816: over what?
- Several different issues, which is why I thought to leave that to that specific article rather than explaining here. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Winnipeg was the site: except that it wasn't called "Winnipeg" yet.
- Manitoba and Northwest Territories legislator James McKay named the city.: Is there a story behind the naming? Did McKay speak Cree?
- He was Metis and served as an interpreter between government officials and aboriginal groups. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Would it not be worth mentioning that? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Would it not be worth mentioning that? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- He was Metis and served as an interpreter between government officials and aboriginal groups. Nikkimaria (talk)
- The railway divided the North End, which housed mainly Eastern Europeans, from the richer Anglo-Saxon southern part of the city.: Was this intentional?
- I would say yes, but I don't recall seeing that explicitly stated in any source. Nikkimaria (talk)
- the increase in shipping traffic helped Vancouver to surpass Winnipeg in both prosperity and population.: By when had that happened?
- in May 1919 in what came to be known as the Winnipeg General Strike of 1919: is it also known simply as the "Winnipeg Genereal Strike"? It'd be nice to drop that second "1919".
- returning discharged soldiers seeking work: It may not be obvious why there were so many discharged soldiers.
- the largest flood to hit Winnipeg since 1861: maybe "to hit the area" or something, as the settlement wasn't yet called Winnipeg in 1861?
- This evacuation was Canada's largest ever.: As of 1950, or as of 2014?
- in Western Canada: "Western" from a Canadian geopolitical perspective, but we were told above it was smack in the longitudinal centre. Maybe this should be explained.
- "largest remaining mature urban elm forest in North America": is there some reason this is quoted?
- The Red River reached its greatest flood height in 1826.: how high?
- Exact height unknown, estimates vary...I've created a short article on the topic to mirror the other floods. Nikkimaria (talk)
- thousands of evacuations: above we were told "100,000", which is certainly "thousands" but not likely what readers would imagine
- As Duff Roblin wasn't premier until 1958, mabe we should be given a timescale for the Red River Floodway project?
- such as Grand Forks, North Dakota: Was Grand Forks hit in the same flood?
- Yes, much worse, but I think that's clear from the sentence as written? Nikkimaria (talk)
- Not really—on first read, I thought it was referring to another well-known flooding. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Better? Nikkimaria (talk)
- Not really—on first read, I thought it was referring to another well-known flooding. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, much worse, but I think that's clear from the sentence as written? Nikkimaria (talk)
- spring and autumn are pleasant: I'm sure they are, but what does "pleasant" mean?
- Snow sometimes lasts 6 months of the year: meaning it statys on the ground for six months without melting, or the snowing season lasts six months?
- Either or both - suggestions? Nikkimaria (talk)
- one square mile (2.5 km2): you use a
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earlier; not that it matters, but consistency is nice. - (irrelevant comment: I had a Chinese friend from Winnipeg who said he and his family were the only Chinese people he knew there—how did he not know about Chinatown, Winnipeg?)
- Winnipeg census metropolitan area redirects to Winnipeg Capital Region, where it's not capitalized. I have no idea which is correct or if there's anything to do about them.
- I've seen both, so no preference. Nikkimaria (talk)
- significant Aboriginal population,: are "Aboriginal" and "First Nations" being used as synonyms? Either way, maybe it should be made clear.
- No: I've relinked Aboriginal peoples in Canada in Demographics to clarify. Nikkimaria (talk)
- although Toronto has more Filipinos by total population: I don't see this data in the source; the question I was hoping to answer was whether Toronto was the only municipality with a larger population of Filipinos.
- NHS profile for Toronto - they have a greater number but it represents a smaller proportion of their population. I actually went through and compared all of the NHS profiles for major cities, so rather than linking all of them in the ref I just went with the "compared to similar profiles" verbiage. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Any history on the decline of French in Winnipeg? We know there were an awful lot of them in Louis Riel's time.
- Mass migration after the province joined Confederation plus large influx of Anglos, essentially. That being said, it was never the numbers that were big, just the percentages. Nikkimaria (talk)
- I know the history, but I thought it was interesting enough to merit a mention that there were once more francos than anglos, and the province (and I assume the city) was at first officially bilingual, but by 1916 even francophone schools were abolished. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Added a bit. Nikkimaria (talk)
- I know the history, but I thought it was interesting enough to merit a mention that there were once more francos than anglos, and the province (and I assume the city) was at first officially bilingual, but by 1916 even francophone schools were abolished. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Mass migration after the province joined Confederation plus large influx of Anglos, essentially. That being said, it was never the numbers that were big, just the percentages. Nikkimaria (talk)
- traditional (aboriginal) spirituality: is there anything good to link to here?
- If there is I haven't found it yet. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Hmm ... kinda broad, but there's Native American religion and Mythologies of the indigenous peoples of North America. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I've linked the first of those for now. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Hmm ... kinda broad, but there's Native American religion and Mythologies of the indigenous peoples of North America. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- If there is I haven't found it yet. Nikkimaria (talk)
- with a consumer price index of 123.1 as of January 2014: this number doesn't mean anything without a base year.
- the Canadian Museum for Human Rights (scheduled to open in 2014): worth a redlink? Also, since it's 2014 already, can we get a month or quarter? (yes, it's given below, but still ...)
- the Millennium Library: is there something that makes the Millennium Library noteworthy?
- Just that it's the main branch of the system. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Then maybe call it the main branch? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Then maybe call it the main branch? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just that it's the main branch of the system. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Ernest H. Shepard's painting of "Winnie the Pooh": Might want to let everyone know that Shepard was Pooh's illustrator.
- schmoo torte and wafer pie It'd be nice to have a short description of these mysterious dishes.
- the Oscar-nominated film: the Oscar nomination is kind of fluffy, don't you think?
- Neil Young, the Crash Test Dummies, The Guess Who, Bachman–Turner Overdrive, The Weakerthans, and The Wailin' Jennys: Shouldn't these be either alphabetized or chronologized?
- It was the first organization to be granted a royal title under the reign of Queen Elizabeth II: was it the first under her reign, or was it the first and happened to be under her reign?
- The Winnipeg International Writers Festival (THIN AIR): could we get an explanation for "THIN AIR"?
- Don't have one, that's just what they call it (and how they write it), it's not an acronym. Nikkimaria (talk)
- then maybe word it "also known as THIN AIR" or something, so people don't think it's an acronym going over their heads? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Done. Nikkimaria (talk)
- then maybe word it "also known as THIN AIR" or something, so people don't think it's an acronym going over their heads? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:40, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Don't have one, that's just what they call it (and how they write it), it's not an acronym. Nikkimaria (talk)
- Winnipeg has been home to a number of professional baseball teams, most recently the Winnipeg Goldeyes, since 1994.: "since 1994" refers to being a home to pro baseball teams, or to the Goldeyes?
- with 300,000+ annual fan visits; consider "more than" to the "+" shorthand?
- as well as regional and national magazines based in the city: don't want to name any of them?
- with four hours of broadcasting: per day?
- There are presently five: A lot of people insist "presently" means "soon"; it may be a target for "corrections".
- Since 1992, the city of Winnipeg has been represented by 15 city councillors and a mayor elected every four years.: are the councillors elected every four years as well?
- The present mayor, Sam Katz, was elected to office in 2004 and re-elected in 2006 and 2010: Was one of those a by-election?
- 25 Winnipeg districts are represented by members of the New Democratic Party (NDP), 4 by members of the Progressive Conservative Party, one by the Liberal Party, and one by an Independent.; In federal politics, Winnipeg is represented by eight Members of Parliament: six Conservatives, one New Democrat and one Liberal.: as of?
- direct U.S. connections ... and US 75: you use "U.S.", and then "US", even though the link in th esecond one is to "U.S. Route 75"
- the busiest Canada – United States border crossing between Vancouver and the Great Lakes.: I'm pretty sure you can't cross from the Great Lakes to Vancouver
- with at-grade intersections: what's an "at-grade intersection"?
- Still in its preliminary stages, construction has begun on a $212-million four-lane freeway that will connect CentrePort with the Perimeter Highway.: as of?
- 2009, website still says to be finished by 2013 but they're nowhere close. Nikkimaria (talk)
———Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 01:55, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hey Curly Turkey, thanks for your comments and edits. I've replied to several inline above; those without comments should be addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:02, 26 May 2014 (UTC)