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Archive 1

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Language	User (level)	Level
for simple romany	AdiJapan\|	(3)
	Afil\|	(4)
	Andrei	(3)
	Firilacroco	(3)
	GikÜ	(2)
for simple english	Math_cat	B/C
for simple english	Anthony_Bradbury	A/A+
average wikipedia english	User_talk:Dispenser	F^{[citation needed]}
average wikipedia english	Vin Diesel	D

retrieved from ro:embassy#international today
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actor Diesel was away when asked so he also knows slang english, too

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I think this is a good idea, but hopefully over time will be largely unnecessary (because issues will be automatically coordinated). It's definitely good to have a go-to person who can translate between languages. I'm not a big fan of the metaphor though; the different language wikis should not be thought of as separate nation-states. --The Cunctator

I really hope it will be unecessary over time, but right now, it is a fact I can see on a daily basis that most french NEVER come here, and have no idea what is going on. I try to change that fact, but since it is a fact, it has to be taken into account.

Why did you change the title of these pages from non-english to international ? what are your arguments ?

user:anthere

interlanguage linking

There are more and more interlanguage links added as our wikipedias are growing. I think it's time to bring them into an order - alphabetical?. It will be confusing for the reader if the other languages links are, as they are now, randomly sorted. What do you think?

proposal for interlanguage linking:

always take all interlanguage links which are already in the article with you. If you put a link to the german version in the french article and there is no link to esperanto and english, put it in, too.
if you edit an article with many interlanguage links, take the time to sort them alphabetically!

--Elian

Note that ‹alphabetically› is by the language's own name for itself (or the closest approximation in Latin-1), so the order is the same in every language wiki (using a Latin script). — Toby 14:36 Nov 17, 2002 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Guide to Layout for more input user:anthere

Hello

I am the ambassador for the Spanish Wiki, Enciclopedia Libre and perhaps soon for the French Wiki. I would like to give more information on what happend on these wiki : projects, discussions, war edits, topic with many new articles, how many new contributors, vandalism ... Wikipedia:Embassy will be soon too long and impossible to edit, so I have thought to make new sections

Is it OK ?

Youssefsan 22:11 Feb 4, 2003 (UTC)

What's Enciclopedia Libre ? Mintguy

The short answer is Enciclopedia Libre (El) ;-). In February 2002 a lot of Spanish Wikipedians left es.wikipedia.org to go on a new server. Now there are two different Spanish free encyclopedias projects. Unfortuanately EL has much more contributors and articles. -- Youssefsan 14:12 Feb 9, 2003 (UTC)

Hi, it is a very nice project. Hope you add Hebrew support for it soon. I tested in the sandbox: mose things do come out well in Hebrew, but there are some problems, such as alignment to left, not recognizing the "Enter" when it is between 2 Hebrew lines and combination of Hebrew and English. There is a relative of this project, another clone of Wiki, that supports Hebrew (and has many other very nice features - you can copy) in http://sourceforge.net/projects/chiqchaq it is the technology behind of a very big content site in Israel, http://www.beofen-tv.co.il/cgi-bin/chiq.pl ("beofen tivi" is "Naturally" in Hebrew") when you enable Hebrew - plese let me know, and I will both contribute myself and spread the word in Israel. Thanks, Oded, dedel@netvision.net.il

Linking Chinese Article to the English Article

I've already asked the following Q once, but it apparently seems to be deleted! I visited the Archives and didn't find it. Why is it delete?

When linking a Chinese article to its corresponding English one (adding the interlanguage link [[zh:___]] after "Other languages: " at the top of the Edit Page), do I link the traditional Chinese version or do I have to link to the simplified version? I just linked the traditional version to overseas Chinese because that's the original version I wrote. --Menchi 00:48 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

As a test I linked to both. That works, but you can not see which is which, except that the numerical code that pops up is different. One solution is to have two Chinese wikipedias, another is to have the two links in fixed order for all articles, a third solution would be some software change, for example showing the Chinese characters in the popup, or just an indication for traditional/simplified. - Patrick 10:35 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

Having two Chinese Wikipedia is unneccessary, as disccused in Chinese Wikipedia. I think the solution is to link to the newer one. After all on each page there is still a link that will direct to another Chinese version. --Formulax 09:43 Mar 9, 2003 (UTC)

Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump:

Where is the real Spanish wiki? I think it hurts the project that we do not have a clear link to that site. The main page should link to it. Where is it? Dietary Fiber

As far as I know, the Spanish monarchy has not endorsed any wiki. ;) Are you trying to get at the Spanish Wikipedia (http://es.wikipedia.org/ ) or the more active Enciclopedia Libre (http://enciclopedia.us.es/ ), which is not a part of the Wikipedia project? --Brion 22:03 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, plz create a front page link to it. Its a wiki and its Spanish and its 600% larger than the es.wikipedia Dietary Fiber

Why? It is not a part of Wikipedia. --mav

Out of educational respect and Wikilove, it is rude to not link to them as they are trying to do the same thing we are. Dietary Fiber

It was rude of them to fork es.wiki to begin with. They are already linked on Wikipedia:About which in turn is linked from every single page here. That is IMO way more than enough. --mav

Someone having been rude to you is a poor excuse for being rude to them, even if it is a frequent one. EL may not be a part of Wikipedia, but it's goal, process, and license are identical, making es.wikipedia.org largely redundant. It makes more sense to me to link it more tightly from es.wikipedia.org than from the English-language front page, though, if we're to continue to maintain it. We don't link any other non-Wikipedia projects from there, just the other Wikipedia subprojects (meta-wikipedia, wiktionary) and the other languages Wikipedia is available in. --Brion 01:03 Apr 1, 2003 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to start the occitan language page of WIKEPEDIA. But this is the first time I come on so a web site with a possibility to create a living edition of an occitan language speaking encyclopaedia and I am not very expert in computers and Internet.

Aquò m'agradaria que jamai pus de convidar d'especialistas, occitans o non, per crear una edicion occitana seriosa e agradiva de legir,e de contribuîr a la coneissença dins la lenga nòstra:-) Aquò m'agradaria , per exemple de legir quicòm sus una curiositat pre-istorica coma "anomalocaris" o un article sus la gramatica generativa e transformacionala segon lo Sénher Pr Noam Chomsky dins la mieuna lenga. Es un grand prètzfach, me pensi, e apassionant. Adieu-Siatz a totis. Théodore dich Lop l'Aquitan, Lupus Aquitanus.

Lupus, Brion pourra t'aider pour cela, mais il est actuellement en vacances. Anthère

Hello. I would like to help you. Brion, the guy who usually set up new languages is on vacations for 2 weeks. Perhaps, the best thing is to wait until he comes back and reply to your message. --Youssefsan 12:13 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

je crois que Lupus part aussi en vacances :-)

This page should be moved to meta

I suggest that this page and its other language counterparts should be moved to meta (this embassy would be at m:English Wikipedia Embassy, for example). That way we all have one place to view additions or changes to any one embassy. This will aid the process of informing all embassies of updates. For example, activity on the French Embassy page on meta will be noticed by Wikipedian's from other languages; some of these people will speak French and another language even though they may not spend much time on fr.wiki; they would then be able to help the listed ambassador by translating the French updates into the other language they know. Furthermore m:Wikipedia News could be used for many of these updates in the first place. If nobody objects I'll move the page myself in a week or two and interwiki redirect the en.wikipedia page to its meta counterpart. --mav 06:11, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Article translation

How do you go about translating a page into another language? Do you have to go into the French/German/Italian wikipedia and create the page again there, or what? Olivia Curtis 18:35 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

yup. -- Tarquin 19:04 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your succinct answer. What do you do next? I've created a new page to match the one in the English wiki, but there still isn't a thing at the top saying 'other languages:' - how do you do that? Olivia Curtis 21:07 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

Did you copy in the interlanguage links? (BTW, it's always best if you can give a link to the page you're working with as an example.) --Brion 21:12 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks - I didn't know about those but have got there now. Olivia Curtis 21:24 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

You have to log in in the other wikipedia separately, then create an article similar to doing that in the English wikipedia. - Patrick 21:35 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

Is it ok to translate an article from another language Wikipedia to another one? For instance, I was working on translating something from the Spanish Wikipedia to the English one when it occurred to me that I should at least ask about it ... mgmei

Yes, of course it is! Be sure to include an interlanguage link, and it's good form to note the source in the edit summary. --Brion 06:46 Feb 28, 2003 (UTC)

master list

Since it's a pain to update dozens of pages with new names, there is now a master list at m:Wikipedia:Embassy. We can choose whether to keep a local copy here or not. I suggest the list of events be moved to Meta too. -- Tarquin 14:15, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Working in a language in which you are likely to make mistakes

Is it acceptable to work in a Wikipedia whose language you have only studied academically, and may make grammatical errors in? I was thinking about working in the Spanish Wikipedia, but I have only taken Spanish through a second-year college level (probably 7 years of classes in and before college) and I'd be likely to make grammar errors. Given my experience trying to fix up the travel article, I don't want to put anyone else in the same boat, but I feel I could make significant contributions there. -- Pakaran 01:35, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Personally, I think that would great. The small Wikipedias (Arabic for example) need all the help they can get and would probably welcome people with a less than perfect knowledge of the language. I don't know whether people at the Spanish Wikipedia would feel the as I do though. Maybe you could ask at es:Wikipedia:Café. Angela . 01:45, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I just made an account and posted there. -- Pakaran 01:59, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I occasionally write stuff in the French wikipedia...despite about 15 years of French classes, I can still only write something that is almost French-like, but the French-speakers there don't seem to mind fixing my mistakes. Likewise, I don't mind fixing non-English peoples' mistakes when they post here. I think the idea is that it is better to have an article with grammar mistakes than no article at all. Adam Bishop 01:59, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

That makes sense - and those of us who are multilingual are in a position to translate articles over, and they can then be fixed much faster than an article could be written from scratch, or so I'd like to think. -- Pakaran 02:07, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I can attest to French Wikipedians' willingness to patiently correct your...I mean, my, mistakes. My French knowledge is so "basic" (that reads "sucky") that sometimes things that came out make no sense except to myself. So we have to discuss those things in the Talk page, and once the native speaker got what I mean, he helps to make the French decent.

Chinese WP only rarely gets non-Chinese contributors. The only one we have currently is a Brittany linguist who happens to speak Chinese better than me. It's basically the same friendliness in all other Wikipedias I tried: Vietnamese and definitely English. So, get off your hesitating chair and just do it! --Menchi 04:54, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

One way around this is to set up an editing partnership, as we have been doing at the History of Poland series. I write a draft section in (I hope) good English. Various Polish users who do not have good English then make comments and add more material. I then edit their material into good English. This seems to work quite well. Adam 03:32, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

We have an extremely active contributor over on the Welsh Wikipedia, who is very keen. Unfortunately it's obvious that he's translating articles from the English Wikipedia word-for-word and hasn't twigged that Welsh is a Verb-Subject-Object language while English is Subject-Verb-Object so the word order is all wrong! However any article is better than none, and it's not much of a hassle to correct the articles afterwards once I have an idea what he meant. Hopefully the grammar will become clearer to him over time. Arwel 12:02, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

The article asserts that "The master list of ambassadors is at m:Wikipedia:Embassy", but in fact that seems to be a dead link. -- Jmabel 22:07, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It's Wikipedia Embassy, not Wikipedia:Embassy. I've fixed the links. Angela .

New articles on Serbian Wikipedia

... Are ready; what is the method to publish it at the same pages on en:Wikipedia? I added sr:лингвистика link to en:Linguistics, but someone removed that. (I am Miloš.)

I don't think anyone has removed it. It appears under the sidebar with the other interlanguage links. It looks like you did it exactly right. Angela . 04:33, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Single sign-on for all languages

Hi,

is it by design that you have to register a separate user account for every Wikipedia language? I just came accross that question when updating the Future Crew article first in German and after that in English, where I found myself not logged in. I had to create a new account for wiki.riteme.site first.

IMO it makes no sense requiring users which are already registered in one language's Wikipedia to create a different account for every language they decide to work with.

Is "single-sign-on" in all wikipedias technically possible? If so, then this is a feature request ;-) -- Iromeister 00:55, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Absolutely, I'm registered on 3 language wikis, wiktionary, metawiki and wikicommons. And it does get to be annoying after a while constantly logging in. I would put it on remember me but I'm on a public computer. Not only that, but if you don't edit anything for a while, you're automatically logged out(like now). - Dalta (21:39 11 June 2005)

Interwiki guidelines

Halló! Some months ago I started to search informations about where to insert and how to sort interlanguage links at various Wikipedias. I thing that information should be available in a central place, as at the "embassies" linked to en:Wikipedia:Embassy.
See what I have "collected" so far at commons:User:Gangleri/sandbox/Template:Interwiki guidelines. Would be happy if you would add information about en: if your community has already decided about this. Thanks in advance! Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 01:15, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

Clueless Newbie - Charte sur les différentes langues

Je ne trouve pas la charte de Wiki sur l'utilisation de différents languages. Qu'est-on censé faire lorsque: - L'on trouve une entrée intéressante dans un langage et qu'elle n'existe pas dans un autre langage?
- Une même entrée dans deux langages différents ne possède pas du tout le même degré de pertinence?
- Une entrée que l'on souhaite ajouter à un langage existe dans un autre langage que l'on ne maîtrise pas, et semble insuffisante dans ce même langage?
Exemple: l'auteur de Bande Dessinée Guido Crépax est référencé en Français et en Anglais comme une ébauche, en Italien beaucoup plus longuement mais cependant de manière encore incomplète, et en Allemand pas du tout.
Sachant que je peux écrire en Anglais et en Français et que je comprends juste assez d'italien pour voir que la fiche est incomplète, comment contribuer à la fiche de cet auteur que j'apprécie énormément?

Salut, j'mapelle "Peterboroughian."

Spoken in "Canadian Parliamentarian-speak"

Allo:

Je suis un Canadien bilingue, qui a résidence à Peterborough, en Ontario. J'ai dix-neuf ans, et a un propensité pour la linguistique.

If I could play a small role in assisting with the Wikimedia project, I would be very much grateful.

Thank-you/Merci,

Peterboroughian

how to customise/edit navigation box

how to customise/edit navigation box ,search box ,toolbox etc etc WiseSabre

DE: frei zugängliche QUELLEN und LOBBY

Liebe WIKI Kollegen,

gibt es Verhandlungen mit öffentlichen Einrichtungen, die zahlreiche Quellen für WIKI veröffentlichen könnten ?

1. BpB: Zentrale für pol Bildung... Landeszentralen. Stiftungen... 2. Presse: Verhandlungen mit Redaktionen über freien Zugang. 3. Philantrofen, die Verlage und Zeitungen besitzen... Bertellsmann Stiftung.. 4. .....

Jetzt jeder WIKI'er muss um Erlaubnis bitten. Das sind Millionen Bitten.

Statt einer und ZENTRALER.

WANN GIBT ES WIKI LOBISTEN ?!

mfG

Gvidas

Ich hab Deutsch als Muttersprache, und sogar ich hab das jetzt nicht vollinhaltlich verstanden... ;) —Nightstallion (?) 11:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Nightstallion. I tried to translate this, and it was so ambiguous and confusing I gave up. I'm glad to know I wasn't alone. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:48, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

what language Wikipedia should Juiz arbitral be located in?

Based on playing with Bablefish I think the page titled Juiz arbitral is in Portuguese. I not sure but if some might want to take a look. --Bogsat 17:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. —Nightstallion (?) 22:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Belaya Vezha?

Hopefully I've got the right place here... Someone included Sarkel as meaning "White Tower" in Turkic, but Turkic isn't a single language, and I can't figure out how to make it a proper interwiki link... The link they included, for the record, was Belaya Vezha on en. Sarkel is no help, as it says the words are in Slavic, which isn't a specific language either, as far as I can tell. None of the language wikis I tried had anything under this Romanization (tr, be, sl), but I wasn't terribly surprised... I'm WAY outside of my depth here. Help? -- nae'blis 21:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Boticas y Botánicas

En la catagoría Botanicas, la palabra "botánica" quiere decir la misma que "botica". ¿Es correcto, tal uso?
Wugo 06:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Contributing in different languages

I have an account with the EN Wikipedia, but would also like to contribute to the DE and FR Wikipedias. How does this work, since it seems that it's only possible to have one account with one language version of wikipedia? I'd really appreciate any help on this. --Marimg 09:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

You need to register separate user accounts for each different language, as they are functionally independent entities. Prophet121 01:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prophet121 (talk • contribs)

Meta?

Pardon my ignorance, but could this line be made more explicit, with a link to whatever page "Meta" is referring to? Thank you. "Current international issues should be discussed on Meta" - Bacrito 05:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Universal log-in

Am I the only person who wishes one didn't have to register seperately for Wikipedias in different languages? Why make people jump through extra hoops because they want to participate in more than one language? And it's a pain to have to log in and out constantly. Bacrito 23:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I agree with you. Regards, Neranei (talk) 00:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Reading older entries, I see my question was asked by others more than two years ago, with no action taken or explanation offered. And that there's been very little discussion on this page in general. I guess it's pointless for me to be posting here. Bacrito 23:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

DEAR SIR OR MADAM: I'M VERY GLAD TO JOIN THIS GREAT WEBSITE . I'M A MOROCCAN STUDENT I GOT MY BAC LAST YEAR I WANT TO GO TO STUDY ABROD I HAVE GOT THE TOEFL TEST LAST YEAR TWO I'M WAITING FORWARD. TILL YOU ANSWER ME DEAR SIR OR MADAM MY GREAT AND HOT SALUTATIONS TO YOU . I WOULS LIKE YOU TO ANSWER ME AS FAST AS POSSIBLE YOU CAN THANK YOU VERY MUCH AZEDDINE RIFI Azeddine 12:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Azeddine, it's great to have you here! Congratulations on your BAC, and salutations to you as well. I'm known here as Neranei (it's a pseudonym), and I'd be happy to help you with anything you need. If you speak French, I'm comfortable helping you in French or English. Hope to see you around! Regards, Neranei (talk) 00:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Helping out

Hello, my nick is nadie4ever.

I live in spain and Spanish is my father-tongue, but English is my mother-tongue, hehe. I want to help out translating into spanish the articles you deem necessary. I do know how the systems works and the internal linkings are made and so on,

If you want me to do some article just queue them up for me to do. My email is bfb1985@yahoo.es

Nadie4ever 08:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC) nadie4ever

Hola, mi nick es nadie4ever

Vivo en España y el castellano es mi lengua paterna, pero el inglés es la lengua materna, jeje. Quisiera ayudar a traducir al castellano los artículos que necesiteis. Se como funciona el sistema y los links internos, referencias, etc

Si queréis que haga algún artículo simplemente señaladme cuales hacer. Mi email es bfb1985@yahoo.es

Nadie4ever 08:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC) nadie4ever

Savogna di Cividale

(italiano) La voce Savogna di Cividale va spostata a Savogna perché quello è il nome ufficiale in italiano. Crisarco —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.53.143.26 (talk) 15:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. --Angelo (talk) 11:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

(italiano) Aiuto cambio nome per login unificato

Buongiorno a tutti, sto praticando il login unificato, e avrei gentilmente bisogno di cambiare il mio nome da Misterioso94, a Misterioso (come quello nella mia wiki principale, quella italiana. Vorrei gentilmente sapere come posso cambiarlo nella wikipaedia inglese. Grazie, Misterioso94 (talk) 09:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni Luppis

Buongiono, mi chiamo Hellis e sono un'amministratore della wikipedia in italiano. Vi vorrei segnalare che un'utente bannato sulla wikipedia italiana sta attualmente commettendo spam sulla vostra wikipedia. Nello specifico nella voce Giovanni Luppis, utente sta cercando di legare il personaggio alla famiglia Lupis. La persona gioco sul fatto che i cognomi sono simili e a supporto delle sue affermazioni porta link a siti dove puo scrivere. Difatti cita i siti Lupis.it (sito della sua famiglia) e www.genmarenostrum.com è il sito dell'associazione da lui gestita. L'utente per avvalorare le sue affermazioni cita una pubblicazione privata che in un'edizione pubblicò la sua famiglia. Nelle edizioni precedenti e successive però la famiglia non apparve più. La sua famiglia sulla wikipedia italiana non è stata ritenuta nobile dato che non si sono trovati riscontri indipendente ma alcune persone effettivamente un loro posto nella storia l'hanno avuto e difatti la pagina Lupis li elenca. Ma in nessuna pagina viene detto che la famiglia e nobile e nella pagina Giovanni Luppis ovviamente non vi è cenno della famiglia Lupis. Ho cercato di intervenire ma il mio scarso inglese mi ha impedito una corretta risporta nella pagina di discussione e quindi chiedo l'intervento di un'interprete. Hellis (talk) 08:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

german-english translation

I have a two page article in german which I have run through Google translate. I would be very grateful if somebody could look through the article and the google effort and turn it into useable english. Its for use on the Rudolf Wolters article. I can e-mail a pdf of the original and the 'translation' in Word. Thanks. Fainites ^barleyscribs 00:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Link to a deleted page

The page that links "[[pl:Eter metylo-tert-butylowy]]" was deleted. So, please delete it from http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%81%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%96%E3%83%81%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%86%E3%83%AB (maybe this page is blocked). Thank you. --Aushulz (talk) 02:29, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Prepared article

Hi! Would somebody be so kind and take at look at my first article that I prepared? As a non native speaker I expect that my punctuation and some of my expressions have "room for improvement" ;-). Every correction is welcome. Thank you! -- Greetz Sir Gawain (talk) 15:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

You might have better luck at WP:FEED. Intelligentsium 22:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

What language is it?

Hapgulu lo Engleveriden Wikipedia! Ayn yo ari dela veren uye qestchen odloun internasnozhal teng uye Engles Wikipedia, yo envitan kol post liboz lo hivni uye lo Pajver ley hivni artikl

I tried Google Translate but it said language unknown--125.25.212.158 (talk) 12:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)