Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Bugs/Archive/2011
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Good Article reassessment
Filled by: GW Simulations (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 01:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Alerts page, diff, linked discussion page, actual discussion page
Comments: I initiated a Good Article Reassessment (GAR) of Experimental Assembly of Structures in EVA and Assembly Concept for Construction of Erectable Space Structures using the Individual Reassessment process, and created the discussion page at Talk:Experimental Assembly of Structures in EVA and Assembly Concept for Construction of Erectable Space Structures/GA2 per the procedures for that type of review. The bot linked to Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Experimental Assembly of Structures in EVA and Assembly Concept for Construction of Erectable Space Structures/1 when listing it on the WikiProject's alerts page. That would be correct location for a discussion page created using the Community Reassessment process, so the bot seems not to have differentiated between the two types of GAR. --GW… 01:01, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh my, I didn't know there were 2 ways of doing this. Thanks for report! — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Deferred to #Individual GA Reassessment. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:04, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
TTL
Sorry if this is covered elsewhere; if so, I couldn't locate it. I was wondering how long the closed entries remain in the listing after having been closed. Article alerts listing for WP:RUSSIA, for example, contains entries closed in November. They are eventually removed, right? If so, how long do they stay? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 11, 2011; 14:08 (UTC)
- This hasn't been covered yet, because this hasn't been implemented yet. I am currently working on this exact issue – i.e. archiving of old entries. But this is taking a while. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 14:11, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. As long as it is being worked on, it's fine. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't forgotten in the excitement of implementing everything else :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 11, 2011; 14:37 (UTC)
- Archiving implemented as of now/today's run. It's not in its final state, but close. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 21:36, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. As long as it is being worked on, it's fine. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't forgotten in the excitement of implementing everything else :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 11, 2011; 14:37 (UTC)
User names with commas
Filled by: Admrboltz (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 01:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): diff, This, that and the other (talk · contribs)
Comments: While the user's full name is hidden in the wikicode, and the link goes to User:This, that and the other, the user name only shows This. Not a big issue, but wanted to let you know. --Admrboltz (talk) 01:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report! The actual code produces [[User:This, that and the other|]], which MediaWiki turns into and saves as [[User:This, that and the other|This]]. I knew this happened with "Stuff (dab)", but not "Stuff, stuff". Will fix. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should be fixed in today's run. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 17:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yep. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 21:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Confirmed thanks! --Admrboltz (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
CFD not picked up or BOT not running
Filled by: Keith D (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 21:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 January 15#People from, part 3
Comments: There appears to have been no run of the BOT for Yorkshire project since 11 January yet I was expecting to find a CFD from 15 January for Category:People from Stainforth which is tagged with the project template. My guess is that it was not picked-up because of the multiple entries under one discussion. Keith D (talk) 21:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- We've got a multiple-page CfD missing at WP:SPACEFLIGHT as well. This CfD, and our AA page is Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Article alerts. --GW… 22:30, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
The BOT appears to be updating again so that is not the problem but it is still not picking up the CFDs. Keith D (talk) 00:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- It wasn't picked up because it was in Category:Categories for renaming and not Category:Categories for deletion. Fixing. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should work fully now for Category:Categories for deletion, Category:Categories for renaming, and Category:Categories for merging. Category:Categories for conversion, however substitutes into {{Cmbox}}, which is too unreliable to parse, so entries will be undated until I figure some other method.
- P.S. the bot updates every day and has only skipped 1 Jan and been ~10h late on 17/18 Jan. The bottom of the alerts page transcludes Wikipedia:Article alerts/Last update, so that the main page isn't needlessly rewritten. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Looks fixed. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 22:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. It appears to now have the CFDs - lots more than I was expecting. 22:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Bug of listing Gold Peak
Filled by: Beagel (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 11:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject_Energy/Article_alerts; Talk:Gold Peak
Comments: There seems to be some kind of problem reporting requested move of Gold Peak. The discussion was closed a long time ago and even more, the WP Energy banner was removed from the talk page on 17 January 2011. However, the bot continues to list this request for the WP Energy. Beagel (talk) 11:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- The problem is that the bot failed to retrieve the date, so it doesn't know when the entry is to be archived. Hopefully, I will fix this soon before reports are clogged with too many undated entries. The reason it was undated is because a user substed {{movereq}} and bot couldn't find the template in the latest revisions so it assumed something is wrong and stopped parsing them. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Also, removing banner mid-workflow does not remove the entry from alerts. This would impair certain workflows, where pages get moved (redirect is no longer tagged) or deleted (talk page no longer exists), and the bot would fail to list those. Secondly, this avoids users removing the banners on purpose to circumvent alert being generated. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Changed this slightly. The bot will list open entries to whichever projects are subscribed at the time of listing. So removing/adding banners mid-flow would correctly list/delist entries (albeit I'm not sure how edit summaries will be affected). However, closed entries will be continued to be listed to whatever projects were subscribed before it was closed. This si mainly due to technical limitations of deleted/moved pages no longer having the banners/categories. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Closed undated entries will now be nicked when archive time passes from the time of creation of the entry. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit summary and entry longevity
Filled by: Ezhiki (talk · contribs)
Time filed: February 9, 2011; 22:57 (UTC)
Link(s): [1]
Comments: This edit removed two entries and added one RM, but the edit summary only shows "+1 RM". Is that a bug or a feature? Also, the Azarkhin AfD was only closed today—isn't the entry supposed to linger for a while to show the outcome?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 9, 2011; 22:57 (UTC)
- Technically, it added 1 RM and archived 2 entries, so the summary is correct. It doesn't show archiving (-1 XxX refers to a workflow being closed), otherwise it would clog up a lot of alert page summaries. The fact that AfD was archived straight away is because the bot currently (wrongly) decides to archive based on time passed (2 weeks) since the original nomination date (related to this). — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Summaries
will in futuremake note of how many entries were archived just to clear up any confusion. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC) Now do. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Some of workflows use closed time now. More will be added as closure data is implemented. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Pages moved mid-workflow get double reported
Filled by: H3llkn0wz (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 12:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): [2]
Comments:
Article moved during a workflow will cause the bot to close the entry of the former page name and open a new one for the current page name. To fix, should there be two entries with identical workflow/date where one is closed and the page itself redirects to the other, delete the former entry. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts/Bugs#Some_AFDs_get_listed_twice_as_well_as_under_the_wrong_user_when_certain_events_happen. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Archive duplication
Filled by: Train2104 (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): WP:WikiProject Trains/Article alerts/Archive
Comments:
Looking at WP:WikiProject Trains/Article alerts/Archive, several things are duplicated. For example, the closure of this FLC is listed 26 times. Similarly, this GAN is listed 23 times, but not consecutively. There is another case involving an RM for Taipei Metro. What exactly is happening here? — Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 16:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's a known bug, albeit fixed. I just need to delete duplicates from archives. Basically, when a page was in more than one workflow, and one of the workflows would get archived, the other workflow would prevent it from being removed from the subscription's page list. And on the next run, the bot would think it needs to archive again. Thus 26 FAC copies ;) — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- Most of the projects with archive updates got their record duplicates sorted out, including mostly Trains which you already manually fixed. I'll run the fix on all archives tomorrow. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 21:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
More or less fixed. Not sure how much more I'll mess with it. Needs an AWB run instead because of tricky nature of some of these. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 10:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
PROD endorsements are not being recorded
Filled by: MuZemike (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 19:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article alerts (probably on other article alerts pages, as well)
Comments: PROD endorsements (i.e. via {{prod-2}}) are not being recorded on the AA pages, at least from my last look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article alerts. I don't know if it was shut off, or if a bug somehow got in the way. –MuZemike 19:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for reporting. A rewrite some time ago disabled this. Then too much real life got in the way. I know of this, though. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 19:25, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Should be back on-line now [3]. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Wrong discussion link
Filled by: Torchiest (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 16:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): [4]
Comments:
Hi there. First, I wanted to thank you for making such a useful tool for project pages. It's quite handy. Having said that, I think I have found a small bug in the code, as the bot seems to have a problem getting the correct link to a particular discussion it is listing on the WikiProject Industrial alerts page. Check the history to see what I mean. It is not correctly adding the "/archive" bit to the Nine Inch Nails featured topic removal discussion, and I've corrected it twice. Not sure what could be causing that, but I thought I'd let you know. Thanks! —Torchiest talkedits 16:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report. I see what's wrong, the correct syntax is "Wikipedia:Featured topic removal candidates/{{{1}}}/archive{{{2}}}". Fixed. Will be updated next run. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 17:14, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- Glad to hear it was an easy fix. Thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 17:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Minor bug - repeated "was"
Filled by: Avenue (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 13:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Comments:
- The AfD closure report says that the article "was was deleted"; i.e. "was" is repeated. --Avenue (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad (glad?) I'm not the only one who has seen this error. I have noticed this same bug affecting the article alerts page of WikiProject Connecticut (example here). It's not major, but it is grammatically and aesthetically annoying and is probably relatively easy to fix. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 07:56, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ugh, sorry. How do I keep missing these? Anyhow, fixed hopefully. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's good to hear. --Avenue (talk) 13:38, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- An edit today had the same problem--see second link above. There is also a "result retrieval failed" in that link, not sure if that's correct or not. --Steve (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ummm... that is weird, I really have no idea. May be I messed up something between revisions. The second "was" is no longer in code... Anyway, the result retrieval failed because some weird whitespace around "speedy delete" that should've worked. Thanks for that! — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Only list TfDs from non-transclusions
Filled by: H3llkn0wz (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 13:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Comments:
Only list TfDs and MfDs from non-transclusions (i.e. direct use of nom template). — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 13:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Fixed as of RfD bug below. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Some AFDs get listed twice as well as under the wrong user when certain events happen
Filled by: MuZemike (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 23:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): this version
Comments:
Looking at this version, there is one AFD there, Mount&Musket:Battalion, which I moved to Mount&Musket: Battalion, along with its corresponding AFD. As a result, the AFD gets listed again on Article Alerts, with the user who moved it listed as the nom; in this case, I was listed. I know there are a couple other AFDs which do not get the correct nominator right, but the case above is definitely one of those reasons that does not happen.
Anyways, as far as moving AFDs are concerned, a pagemove should only change the name of the article, not anything else. –MuZemike 23:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report (which I again missed in watchlist)! This is the same as: Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts/Bugs#Pages_moved_mid-workflow_get_double_reported.
- From bot's perspective those two are separate entries. One got closed (removed from category). The other got opened (appeared in category). What the bot needs to do is when getting closed AfDs data to see if it is a redirect to another open AfD, then assume the page was moved and transfer data over (nominator/date) and kill the closed entry. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hopefully, it is more or less fixed now [7]. A little less than elegant code-wise solution but at least it works. The original page also gets reported just in case. There is still a bug in existing records having incorrect (old) discussion link if that was moved/redirected as well. It shouldn't happen for new ones. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Report page "more..." link points to incorrect page and section
Filled by: Fyunck(click) (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 05:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Comments:
Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis has an article alert section and under article deletions, since there are so many, it says "more." When you click "more" however it goes to a redirect page that doesn't work. How do I fix this so more works properly? It must have something to do with the fact that WikiProject Tennis redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report! This is do to a recent change in subscription syntax so that the delivery defaults to Wikipedia: namespace. But I forgot to add that to the (more...) links. Hopefully, it will be fixed now (User:AAlertBot/Sandbox article alert and User_talk:AAlertBot/Sandbox_article_alert). — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:38, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Incorrect edit summary
Filled by: Ljthefro (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 03:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): diff
Comments: This recent edit by the AAlertBot indicated there were "112" entries archived, when in reality it looks like less than ten. It also looks like the edit summary may be in error, indicating some of the items that were already listed as new items with this edit (i.e. +3 TfD, when there was one listed previously and two new items with this run). -- LJ ↗ 03:17, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, the save files got misplaced, so the bot thought it's doing everything from start. After the files got reinstated, I guess the list of affected subscriptions pages got messed up. I should probably have disabled edit summaries for the run. Anyway, this should be a one-time occurrence though. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:38, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. The edit summary at WP:USRD from today's bot run looked fine. -- LJ ↗ 02:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Bot still adding duplicates
Filled by: Torchiest (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 19:14, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): [10]
Comments: On June 21, the bot ran this update on an archive, which was all duplicates. I manually removed them. I saw that you had a similar error reported above, but as of two months ago, you said it was corrected, and this just happened a couple weeks ago. Thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 19:14, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report. That was a new instance unfortunately. All the files got accidentally deleted after a failed run, so the bot thought it is archiving/running for the first time. See the report just above. I'm aware of this and will eventually remove the duplicates automatically. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 19:17, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Bot not archiving when edit summaries indicate it is
Filled by: Struway2 (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 19:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): project alerts history, archive history
Comments: Edit summaries on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article alerts indicate the bot claims to be archiving entries daily, but it isn't removing any entries from the alerts page, and the last edit made to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article alerts/Archive was on 6 July. Struway2 (talk) 19:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- This is strange. I am guessing the bot fails to archive the entries, so they don't get deleted from files, but neither do they appear in the main report. Probably because the page size is too big. I'll look into it. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- The bot does indeed repeatedly fail to upload the archive page when run by Headbomb, this has probably to do with internet connection upload limit/timeout. I will need to implement archiving to new sub-pages. Unfortunately, there's some subtle bug that messes up records and counters when the archive processes the records but fails to update the page. I'll keep looking into it. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 19:31, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Tennis player move request alerts missing
Filled by: Fyunck(click) (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 21:46, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): On Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Article alerts only two of the pages I have asked to move appeared... Sebastián Decoud and Agustín Velotti who are Argentinian tennis players. Yet the move requests for Teodor-Dacian Crăciun, Victor Ioniță and Blaž Rola, Romanian and Slovenian tennis players, did not appear. Why?
Comments: How can I fix this in the future with other nationalities? Is there a list somewhere that I can edit if a nationality is missing or do I ask for it here? Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:46, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- The way the alerts are currently set up, the bot checks for every page tagged with {{WikiProject Tennis}}. If you want to make sure a page gets reported, just make sure it's tagged with {{WikiProject Tennis}} (if you have a lot of pages to be tagged, you can make a bot request to save yourself some time). I've updated your alerts to check for pages with a {{Infobox tennis biography}}, but ideally those would have a WikiProject banner on their talk pages as well. The changes will kick in on the bot's next run.Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Number of participants
One-time bug
The number of participants got zeroed out in the most recent update.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 21, 2011; 19:56 (UTC)
Copied from Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#AAlertBot.27s_counting_algorithm:
AAlertBot's counting algorithm might need some tweaking - it recently listed an AfD as having "0 participants; del: 4, keep: 3". Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 02:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report. Last run listed all AfD with 0 participants. This was a bug in the counter that I noticed a bit too late, so I did not restart/rerun. It will be fixed today. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:11, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Report cut off can leave open tags
Filled by: PrimeHunter (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 23:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): [11]
Comments: In the above diff, AAlertBot cut off a prod reason after 250 characters so it ended with open tags and caused misformatting in the report. I saw the problem at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#My sig breaks AA and also posted there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report. Yeah, this is a partially known issue; the character limit does not gracefully handle formatting. Usually tags and formatting without closing counterparts get truncated by MediaWiki at the linebreak, but I guess it didn't here. I'll fix it. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Bot cuts of signiature, repeatedly
Filled by: Piotrus (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 22:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): See [12].
Comments: Bots cuts off my signature, resulting in cascading failure. And even after I went and removed my signature, from the article and the report, the bot restored it, reintroducing the failure. This needs to be fixed (and the prod in question, deleted). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been pretty busy. I made the bot clear the summary string of formatting, but that PROD's entry was retrieved before the fix. Here's a test report with that formatting (4th entry), so it should be fixed now. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:36, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Missing RfC
Filled by: Lionelt (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 08:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Link(s):National Organization for Marriage RFC listing: [13]; WikiProject Conservatism alert alerts: [14]
Comments: The RFC at National Organization for Marriage is not displaying at WPConservatism article alerts. – Lionel (talk) 08:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report! I didn't realize someone had moved {{rfctag}} to {{rfc}} ([15]). In fact, I can now use the Category:Requests for comment category ([16]). I've now corrected this ([17]), hopefully should pick up all (what I assume in many) missed RfCs in today's run. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Missing computing PROD
Filled by: Pnm (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 18:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Article alerts; GetAdmin
Comments: I deproded GetAdmin today, which wasn't listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Article alerts despite being proded days ago. Any idea why it wasn't in the alert listing?
The talk page had been tagged since 2009 with {{WikiProject Computer Security}} which adds WP Computing as a subproject. The article was in Category:Unassessed Computing articles and Category:Unknown-importance Computing articles. Today I assessed the article and added {{WikiProject Microsoft Windows}} a which also pulls in Computing. I'm curious about whether it will show up as deproded after the next run. --Pnm (talk) 18:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- {{WikiProject Computer Security}} is not the same as {{WikiProject Computing}}. The bot looks for a specific template transclusion or specific category. Both have an active subscription — CS and C. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't realize it used transclusions. I noticed you said "or specific category." Can it be configured for multiple categories (e.g. the subcategories of Category:Computing articles by importance)? --Pnm (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not as of yet, but it is likely to be the next in line for features to be implemented. See Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Feature requests#Custom categories. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, that's good to hear! In the meantime: does the template need to be transcluded directly? I'm wondering if I can work around the limitation by modifying the talk page templates to conditionally transclude dummy templates for computing, security, software, etc., and having the bot use those. I'm thinking something like {{IsComputingArticle}}, {{IsComputerSecurityArticle}}, etc. --Pnm (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it has to be transcluded on the page, directly or indirectly. Basically, WhatLinksHere must show it. Since the bot does not check each and every page for tags (that would be over 4000 pages to check), it asks WP for a long list of which pages have which transcluded banners/categories. So it returns something like Andrea Sussi has Template:! Template:BLP Template:Cat handler Template:Cat handler/blacklist ... Template:WikiProject Biography... And I can use the fact that it has BIO banner. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Great. It sounds like it can work then. I'll try to create/revise the templates to accomplish this. Are there any other computing-related projects that have subscriptions? --Pnm (talk) 20:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything is at Wikipedia:Article alerts/Subscription list. Also I think you should better add category to a page than dummy templates. Like
|Indie=yes
in {{WikiProject Video games}} would add add page to Category:Indie video game task force articles. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:49, 11 January 2011 (UTC)- Got it. I could use something like Category:All WikiProject Computer Security articles / Category:All WikiProject Computing articles. --Pnm (talk) 20:58, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt-in but I was watching and I think I can help from our experience. We used the categories listing rather than the banner one for this very purpose when multiple banners use the same project parameters. Have a look at {{WikiProject Spaceflight}}, we use "|MAIN_CAT = WikiProject Spaceflight articles" to send all articles tagged with the banner to Category:WikiProject Spaceflight articles. However an old banner has WikiProject Spaceflight as a daughter project, {{WikiProject Space}}. This banner too uses "|MAIN_CAT= WikiProject Spaceflight articles" under the Spaceflight section. This means all Spaceflight articles get put into the same main category so the bot can scan them all. Hope that helps. ChiZeroOne (talk) 21:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Adding
|MAIN_CAT
and|TF_1_MAIN_CAT
did the trick. Category:All Computing articles is populating now. --Pnm (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Got it. I could use something like Category:All WikiProject Computer Security articles / Category:All WikiProject Computing articles. --Pnm (talk) 20:58, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Everything is at Wikipedia:Article alerts/Subscription list. Also I think you should better add category to a page than dummy templates. Like
- Great. It sounds like it can work then. I'll try to create/revise the templates to accomplish this. Are there any other computing-related projects that have subscriptions? --Pnm (talk) 20:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it has to be transcluded on the page, directly or indirectly. Basically, WhatLinksHere must show it. Since the bot does not check each and every page for tags (that would be over 4000 pages to check), it asks WP for a long list of which pages have which transcluded banners/categories. So it returns something like Andrea Sussi has Template:! Template:BLP Template:Cat handler Template:Cat handler/blacklist ... Template:WikiProject Biography... And I can use the fact that it has BIO banner. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, that's good to hear! In the meantime: does the template need to be transcluded directly? I'm wondering if I can work around the limitation by modifying the talk page templates to conditionally transclude dummy templates for computing, security, software, etc., and having the bot use those. I'm thinking something like {{IsComputingArticle}}, {{IsComputerSecurityArticle}}, etc. --Pnm (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not as of yet, but it is likely to be the next in line for features to be implemented. See Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Feature requests#Custom categories. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 20:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't realize it used transclusions. I noticed you said "or specific category." Can it be configured for multiple categories (e.g. the subcategories of Category:Computing articles by importance)? --Pnm (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
WP:France
Filled by: Jondel (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 02:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Link(s):Jon Ramon Aboitiz
Comments: If this is a ' WikiProject France, a group of editors dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of France and Monaco Why is the Jon Ramon Aboitiz on your deletion list?!! The article is neither related to France nor Monaco! (recent an reliable source have been inserted by the way). This is out of the declared scope! I appreciate by the way the courtesy of informing me in a civil manner.--Jondel (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Talk:Jon Ramon Aboitiz has been tagged with {{WikiProject France}} by STBot on 6 January 2007. Since it's tagged, the bot considers the article to be relevant to WikiProject France. If it's not, just remove the banner {{WikiProject France}}, and it'll be removed from the alerts on the next run. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 08:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, it won't be removed on the next run. It will stay up until it is archived. See 2 threads above -- #Bug of listing Gold Peak. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Possible GA review bug?
Filled by: Ajbpearce (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 11:11, 14 February 2011
Comments: I don't know enough about the process of GA review to tell whether this is a bug with the bot or a problem with the GA page that prevents the bot from detecting it but the article Nelson Mandela shows up in the GA review section of Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights/Article alerts with the date of 21 May 2010, despite the fact that the relevant discussion was concluded ages ago. Is that a bug in the bot or should I do something to the article assessment page to trigger its removal from the bot? Ajbpearce (talk) 14:28, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
- It is in Category:Good article reassessment nominees due to
{{GAR/link}}
in #GAR section. Editor mistake. I removed it, so it shouldn't get listed again. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC) - Confirmed. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
RM bug?
Filled by: Ezhiki (talk · contribs)
Time filed: February 17, 2011; 21:55 (UTC)
Link(s): [18]
Comments: Here in the RM section, the bot used the new name (Kartvelian languages) to list the name of the article both before and after the move.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 17, 2011; 21:55 (UTC)
- Thanks for report! That's user error (poorly handled by bot). Maunus moved the page, but did not archive the discussion right away. From the point of view of South Caucasian languages, the page was moved, so it's listed as closed. But at the same time Kartvelian languages got categorized as a requested move, because of the {{movereq}} tag still being there. So the bot listed both. In principle, I could ignore move requests to the same page, but this will also skip some legitimate, but poorly made requests. In any case, I manually deleted it and it shouldn't appear in the next run. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 23:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it would make sense to exclude them either—it's not that hard to figure out that there's probably a disconnect somewhere between archiving, tagging, and reporting. I just wanted to make sure it is not bot-related. Thanks for looking into this!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 18, 2011; 14:45 (UTC)
Percy Jackson Task Force
Not a bug
The article alerts are not working for the Percy Jackson Task Force. I'm not sure why. Brambleclawx 04:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- They aren't because Category:Percy Jackson task force articles only contains sub-categories and not your projects pages directly. And sub-category parsing was not implemented until some days before. I fixed it for you. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
2 subscription requests from March still redlinked
Filled by: Augwp (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 23:00, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Wikipedia:Article alerts/Subscription list
Comments: Not sure if this counts as a bug, but wasn't sure where to post it... WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas was added to the list on March 1, but its bot report is still a redlink in the subscriptions list. By contrast, I added WikiProj Indigenous peoples of North America (right above it) a few days ago, and it was added within 12-24 hrs. The subscription points to the right project banner template and all, so not sure if the bot was just having a bad day then or something?? :-D The only other red link is RISC OS WikiProj, which was added to the subscription list March 29. Thanks to the bot creator(s) for all their work taking over after the previous bot.
- Hi, thanks for report. There are no pages for this project to report. The other one does. The bot does not write pages unless it has something to write. This stops malformed or non-existent subscriptions from getting empty report ages. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, that explains it. It is a relatively new project, so maybe the problem (that isn't really a problem) will fix itself as more pages within its scope get tagged. Augwp (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Milhist ARW alerts has a stale entry
Filled by: Magicpiano (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 14:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/American Revolutionary War task force/Article alerts
Comments: The bot appears to be removing entries appropriately from the above page, except for one (a closed/passed GTC nom from December 2010). Not sure of this is a bug or just something that got missed because of the resurrection. Magic♪piano 14:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for report! The {{GTCaddmain}} was no removed from the talk page and thus the page was still categorized as a candidate. I removed it. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 14:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah very good, thanks. Magic♪piano 14:44, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Nothing happening on the /Article alerts page
Filled by: Funandtrvl (talk · contribs)
Time filed: 04:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Link(s): Page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Notre Dame/Article alerts, Diff: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Subscription_list&diff=next&oldid=441030953 Comments: I set up the alerts page on 24 July 2011, but nothing has happened yet. I did create the /Article alerts subpage on 02 Aug. Did I do something incorrectly? Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 04:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- It's most likely because there are no pages to report. I will implement delivering empty reports on first subscription, as this tends to happen a lot lately with smaller projects. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:24, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Funandtrvl (talk) 07:26, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Wikipedia:WikiProject Political culture has been merged with Politics. Wikipedia:WikiProject Political culture/Article alerts was merged as well but it seems the bot keeps reinventing it. Can we switch it off for this page? --Kleinzach 23:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- It was recreating the page because the project is still subscribed. I removed it from the subscription list. Drop a note when you have it merged and retagged/recategorized if you want it resubscribed. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:53, 4 January 2012 (UTC)