Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter/Archive 3

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Icons on Android App interface

Today morning, I was checking the talk page notification message using Android App. It looks like the "Added", "Removed" etc icons are not visible, hence makes the list unclear. Here is a screenshot. Thanks. --Titodutta (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Hmm. Didn't see this until now. @Titodutta, I presume the same problem has happened with the current newsletter? I'll try and see if I can find a solution (maybe some mobile-specific wikitext can be added). Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:19, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Yup. Have verified that this is still a problem with the Android app specific interface (not the mobile interface). It's strange that the alt text defined doesn't show up instead. It seems to remove all images before showing the content. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:22, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

DS -> CT

I would encourage adding the contentious topics procedure (formerly known as discretionary sanctions) to the list! We don't have a summary of the differences between CT and DS yet, so I suppose it could wait till next month when it's fully implemented in January. But maybe it wouldn't hurt to add it to the newsletter so folks know it's coming. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 10:27, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Added. The newsletter for this month is a bit delayed, and I wouldn't object to another mass message sender finishing up this month's edition and sending out. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 02:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Will finalise and send out now. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 00:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Desysopped admins

Hello, Administrator's Newsletter,

So, you decided not to list the 90+ admins who were desysopped on January 1st? You can find the list on WP:BN. Maybe you could include a link to this in the February issue. It is kind of big deal since there haven't been this many admins desysopped since 2011 when the first inactivity guidelines were imposed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:14, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@Liz the news covers stuff from the past month. As it was done on January the 1st, this is for next months newsletter. The newsletter should have gone out on the 1st but I wasn't able to press send on the newsletter until now. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 01:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

They are being included in the next issue covering events that occur in January. A special listing format may be needed for a one-off, due to the large size. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

FYI for @Usernamekiran: who was asking about this elsewhere. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

thanks xaosflux. Instead of adding the entire list in newsletter, we can say "ninety-eight administrators have been desysoped due to inactivity, criteria 2." with appropriate wikilinks, and include this permalink: special:permalink/1130825830#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#January 2023. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

RBV22

Could an "advertisement" for a willing admin to close WP:RBV22 be included in the next newsletter if we still don't get a close within March? It's nearing 2 months already. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Probably better to bump the request at [[1]] and hope for some eyes. I think the problem is a lot of people who could close probably have voted already. Galobtter (pingó mió) 00:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

That thread is already pretty high up, I can’t just “hope” for some eyes when the thing’s been there and archived once for 20 days (that was only the second thread) Aaron Liu (talk) 11:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

At 120,000+ words I'd be surprised if anyone even could adequately summarise that RfC. Sam Walton (talk) 13:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I think Cessaune’s Support (278) nicely summarizes the support argument, Æo’s write-up in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022/Discussion § Bring back the TOC summarizes the people who like the old TOC, and the wub’s oppose (186) partially summarizes the opposing argument. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

If there is an advertisement, please post a link to Wikipedia:Closure requests § Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Isabelle Belato has come to the task!Aaron Liu (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Potentially misleading/confusing distribution phrasing

This newsletter can give the impression that the recipient is an Administrator due to the fact that it's called Administrators' Newsletter and it starts with "News and updates for administrators". This is very easily abusable, particularly with how challenging new (or even less new) users may find it to confirm whether the recipient is an administrator.

Possible changes are making the name "Administration Newsletter" and changing the opening line to "News and updates regarding administration". I note a similar suggestion in the archived discussion "Target readership versus distributed readership" which seemed to be agreed upon but not implemented. Cjhard (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

@Cjhard I don't think there's any issue with non-admins signing up to the newsletter - it's all public information and might be of interest to non-admins. I do think it's helpful to be explicit about the intended audience of the newsletter, though. Calling it the Administrators' Newsletter makes it clear that this newsletter is intended primarily to be useful to administrators, and helps prevent scope creep. Sam Walton (talk) 13:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I didn't mean to suggest non-admins shouldn't sign up for the newsletter. I understand the reasons for calling it "Administrator's Newsletter" however I still maintain that the name causes unnecessary confusion about whether someone is an administrator on this website. I agree that it's important to be explicit about the intended audience of the newsletter, I'm suggesting that this can be achieved without causing confusion about whether the recipient is an administrator. Cjhard (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure I would support either suggested names in the first comment, though I get where this comes from. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 17:14, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Topics for the to be published newsletter

I've not found many topics this month. I've been busy with IRL stuff, so I may have missed some things that are relevant. Please add anything relevant, as I think there is not enough items to be able to publish it. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

@Dreamy Jazz Could we note that Wikipedia:Page Curation/2023 Moderator Tools project has started? :) Sam Walton (talk) 18:43, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

It's the next month now, but I've boldly added two items about m:IP Masking. The main point is: This is not an emergency. This is literally months away (maybe even a year or a year and a half). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:31, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of Slowjamistan

Hello, at the request of the "owner" of the micronation Slowjamistan I added his information from the Microwiki page, removing images. Since there are other micronations on Wikipedia I do not see what is wrong with this. I am also personally hurt by the use of the term "vandalism" as I have tried so hard to help the Wiki. Kindly explain the reasoning is removing this entity. Richard Weil (talk) 13:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

I am a bit puzzled as to how anyone could conclude that the the talk page of the admin newsletter was the place to go with a content question, but the short answer is that just declaring your back yard a micronation and making up what you imagine to be hilarious details about how it works doesn't not confer the apparopriate level of notability expected in an encyclopedia article. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:01, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2023

I would like to add my user to the Newsletter, if possible please add

User talk:CisaaIsOnWikipedia CisaaIsOnWikipedia (talk) 22:26, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

@CisaaIsOnWikipedia:  Done Chris Troutman (talk) 23:21, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

About a grammatical (?) issue

This might be coming a bit too late, since the MassMessage already went out, but I thought I'd leave a note here in case something similar comes up in the future: "self-nominate themselves" is a tautology. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

SMALLCAT

Why wasn't the deprecation of WP:SMALLCAT included in this month's edition? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:18, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Most recent newsletter wasn't subst'd?

Hello. I just noticed that there appears to be an issue with the most recent newsletter (January 2024), e.g. Special:Diff/1192979289, where the substitution did not take place. I think this means that it will forever show the current month's newsletter in that section on every user's talk page unless it's corrected. Ping @EN-Jungwon? DanCherek (talk) 00:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@DanCherek yes, I did notice that when I sent out the newsletter. I tried to fix it and realised that the newsletter was sent to over 700 pages. Didn't think it would be a problem until you mentioned forever showing the current newsletter. I'll go ahead and substitute them. Thanks for the heads-up on that. -- EN-Jungwon 01:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@EN-Jungwon: That's a lot of substs, thanks for your work so far - it might be possible to do it (or ask someone to do it) with AWB? DanCherek (talk) 02:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

@EN-Jungwon Thank for your work fixing this. I wanted to note that you also missed the step where you fill out Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/2024/1/List so that the subscription box is up to date. Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Guide contains the full set of steps which need to be performed to send each issue - I've done this since you're busy fixing substs :) Sam Walton (talk) 08:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Copyright ad

Could someone please add a little blurb to the next newsletter, to ask admins who are willing to take questions about copyvios to please add Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to investigate copyright matters to their user pages? It would be nice to have a double-digit number of names in that cat. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)