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Japanese cruiser Ibuki (1943) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Ibuki was the lead ship of her class of heavy cruisers begun shortly after the start of the Pacific War. While still under construction, she began conversion into a light carrier after the losses during the Battle of Midway eviscerated the IJN's carrier force. But that was stopped in early 1945 so that the shipyard could build small submarines for the defense of Japan. As usual I intend to send it to FAC and so need checks for BritEng, unexplained jargon, etc. I also suspect that I should add a bit about the need for the conversion, though I'm uncertain about how much is necessary. So I trust reviewers will weight in with their opinions! Thanks in advance.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nick-D

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Comments Great work as always, but I think that the article's structure could be improved:

  • "was a heavy cruiser built for the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) during World War II" - given that the ship was never completed, I'd suggest tweaking this accordingly
  • I think that the article would benefit from a section which explains how these ships were ordered as cruisers and then converted to carriers - the 'Design and description' section is a bit unclear without it (this section would also work better if it was split into separate sections on the ship's intended design as a cruiser and as a carrier). Nick-D (talk) 10:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • I should have thought of this myself, so I've added a brief background section summarizing the decision making regarding the conversion, though I'm a bit concerned that it partially duplicates the construction section. See if that's satisfactory.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:17, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from AustralianRupert

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Support: G'day, Sturm, I have the following observations/suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 11:22, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • ext links all work, and there are no dab links (no action required)
  • the images lack alt text, which might help improve the experience for some readers: [1] (suggestion only)
  • the infobox says it was ordered in November 1941, but the body of the text just says "1941"
  • the infobox provides an installed power figure of 72,000 shp, but I couldn't find this in the body of the article
  • the infobox provides a figure of 1,015 for the crew, but I couldn't find this in the body of the article
  • however, her construction was suspended on 30 June: do we know why it was delayed?
    • Sadly, no, the source doesn't say.
  • in the Design and description section, I think the type of ship (heavy cruiser) should be mentioned somewhere in the first paragraph. I wonder if it should be mentioned that the ship was intended to be part of a class of X number of vessels here (or maybe in the Construction section)
    • I put that info in the lede.
  • "armoured" --> "armored"

Support from L293D

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  • Maybe clarify in a word or two what avgas is so readers don't have to click the link.
  • At the top of the island, Ibuki was - some readers don't know what an aircraft carrier island is
    • Linked earlier.
  • and a Type 21 radar. In 1944, the Type 21 radar - Type 21 is repetitive, change to "and a Type 21 radar. In 1944, the radar "
    • Good idea.

L293D ( • ) 16:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • Suggest moving the plan up a section and scaling it up
  • File:Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Ibuki_cropped.jpg: when/where was this first published?
    • 2005 in Japan

Support Comment Just a couple of minor issues:

CommentsSupport by CPA-5

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  • The main gun turrets were protected by 25 millimeters of armor and the barbette armor ranged from 25 to 100 millimeters in thickness. How much is the first 25 mm?

@Sturmvogel 66: The article doesn't mentioned how much 25 mm in inches is. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 21:40, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • The navy considered completing Ibuki as a high-speed replenishment oiler, but decided to convert her into a light aircraft carrier. on 25 August. Weird sentences, I think the dot after carrier shouldn't be there.

That's everything what I could find. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:51, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

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The four sources used are of high quality and reliable, exactly what one would expect for such a ship. No formatting errors. AGF re: the spotchecks given Sturm's long history at ACR. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:24, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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