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[edit]04:15, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Slim8029
[edit]I am adding more references. How to I get them to add to the end of the existing list? The "cite" process is inserting them at the beginning. Thanks. Slim8029 (talk) 04:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Slim8029: You don't add references to the "references" section; instead you add them in-line within the text itself, using ref tags. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 04:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- When I click within the text, then click on Cite and add the template information about the new citation, it makes the new entry #1 in the reference list and increments the reference number of every existing reference. It's incredibly confusing to have the reference numbers change all the time.
- Is there any way to do this so the new citation gets the next number following the last of the existing references?
- Thanks. Slim8029 (talk) 00:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
05:11, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Truffles771
[edit]- Truffles771 (talk · contribs)
whats wrong in my draft? Truffles771 (talk) 05:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Truffles771: One source by itself cannot support an article no matter how good it is. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 05:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
07:29, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Olowu Righteous
[edit]Can I recreate a new sandbox? Or is it possible to edit it, write entirely new, different content, and resubmit it? Olowu Righteous (talk) 07:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you are writing about the same subject, you should edit the existing draft and ask the reviewer who rejected it to reconsider. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
09:57, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Quedeveraux
[edit]- Quedeveraux (talk · contribs)
I've made edits , provided sources and references yet my article hasn't been accepted . I don't understand why . I request clarification Quedeveraux (talk) 09:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Quedeveraux: this draft cites one primary source, and therefore provides zero evidence that the subject is notable. Which is unsurprising, given that the album this draft is about won't be released for another several weeks.
- It's also confusing how the article title suggests this is about the person Dominique M, but the content is written as if it's about the album. You need to decide which is the actual subject. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
12:46, 18 December 2024 review of submission by The tricolor
[edit]- The tricolor (talk · contribs)
I think this language is significant because the most viewed youtube video of the language is more popular than the most viewed youtube video of Sambahsa, which has a wikipedia page on it. Please tell me more about why you decided to reject the draft. The tricolor (talk) 12:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The tricolor Wikipedia is not for things that are created one day. You have no independent reliable sources that discuss this constructed language, sources like news reports, books, analysis by language experts, things like that. If you just want to tell the world about this language, you should use social media or other website with less stringent requirements. 331dot (talk) 13:00, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay then I decide to give up about it The tricolor (talk) 13:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
14:56, 18 December 2024 review of submission by 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F
[edit]Zipedia was not yet released. 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F (talk) 14:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Zipedia was launched in 2025 the imaginary encyclopedia, This website is currently protected for imagination. 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F (talk) 14:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Zipedia is a website with imaginary things but its currently protected also to prevent vandalism or other. 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F (talk) 14:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
What is Zipedia right? what is? 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F (talk) 15:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
You need to protect this article draft as extended confirmed immediately. 2A02:A03F:6A97:E201:685F:1414:3B5D:D88F (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't happen on this project page, the correct location is WP:RFPP. There's no evidence of vandalism and the topic does not fall under our standard EC topics so it is unlikely to be protected. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
15:52, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Notonlywords
[edit]- Notonlywords (talk · contribs)
I am told the sources are not reliable and am unclear why not. Thanks a lot. Notonlywords (talk) 15:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Notonlywords: the sources are all primary, and close to the subject, so they are effectively verifying themselves. Also, sections of the draft are unreferenced.
- A bigger problem is that the sources (again because they are primary) cannot establish notability per WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
15:52, 18 December 2024 review of submission by NizuNazmuldhak
[edit]Why is my article being rejected repeatedly? NizuNazmuldhak (talk) 15:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @NizuNazmuldhak: because it is purely promotional, and provides no evidence whatsoever that the subject is notable. And despite several earlier deletions, you haven't improved on this front at all, therefore the title is being protected to prevent further versions being created. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
16:36, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Sufia Hasan
[edit]- Sufia Hasan (talk · contribs)
What is the problem/
Sufia Hasan (talk) 16:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that Yasir Arafat Rahim is not a notable person, that all 46 sources in the draft are unreliable (and almost all of them are copies of the same self-published source), and that Wikipedia is not a platform for hoax content. --bonadea contributions talk 16:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- FTR, the user posting the question has been blocked as a sockpuppet; they had already had two accounts blocked after creating multiple promotional drafts about Yasir Arafat Rahim. --bonadea contributions talk 10:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
17:13, 18 December 2024 review of submission by MR Bang Jago
[edit]- MR Bang Jago (talk · contribs)
more of a bilateral award between Indo-Australian countries MR Bang Jago (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- And I also included in the external link, he is one of the officials from the ministry of communication and informatics in the Indonesian government. MR Bang Jago (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If in this Wikipedia, is it not allowed to make pages in the government? more precisely in the scope of the ministry? MR Bang Jago (talk) 17:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- If in this Wikipedia, is it not allowed to make pages in the government? more precisely in the scope of the ministry? because Ali is one of the scope of ministry officials as well. MR Bang Jago (talk) 17:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- When it comes to references, I include references to secondary sources that have been verified by the Press Council, so it is impossible that the media is not notable, articles that appear in our country's media must first be verified by the Press Council, the Press Council itself is under the auspices of the Presidency of the Republic of Indonesia and is equivalent to the Ministry of Communication and Information, and the press rules of the Indonesian state are different from the press rules in the United State and other European countries, so Ali Azhar D's page is notable regarding its references. MR Bang Jago (talk) 17:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @MR Bang Jago: The US does not have press rules by law. Refer to my "Decode" subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
- https://beritajatim.com/museum-hos-tjokroaminoto-surabaya-jejak-sejarah-dan-inspirasi-generasi-muda is useless for notability (too sparse). Quotes him, does not discuss him.
- We can't use https://www.rctiplus.com/news/detail/seleb/4001870/ali-azhar-d--perjalanan-kreatif-dan-dedikasi-seorang-penyanyi-dan-konten-kreator-terverifikasi (unknown provenance). No real byline; who wrote this?
- I can't assess https://www.metrotvnews.com/read/bD2C1z0l-promosi-iwaff-2025-film-indonesia-tarik-penonton-di-australia-barat (language barrier). Automated translation fails on this page.
- https://pepnews.com/humaniora/p-01739242b7430d4/kreator-konten-surabaya-ali-azhar-berbagi-pengalaman-debut-sebagai-crew-film-hingga-talent is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Effectively a prose interview.
- https://mediaindonesia.com/internasional/707394/kjri-perth-promosikan-indonesia-lewat-festival-film is a non-sequitur. (A source that doesn't so much as name-drop the subject isn't going to be useful as a source on them.)
- I can't assess https://nnc-frontend.netralnews.com/ali-azhar-d-konten-kreator-surabaya-yang-mengubah-kegagalan-menjadi-edukasi-sejarah/QWozSUVxYnhoMUxMeDBFZmNyNzN6dz09 (language barrier). Automated translation fails on this page.
- I can't assess https://portaljtv.com/baca/menyelami-jejak-sejarah-di-rumah-hos-tjokroaminoto-sang-guru-bangsa (technical barrier). I get a server-side error (effectively an HTTP 500 error) when I try to load this page.
- https://aadtoday.com/detail/1622/film-paku-tanah-jawa-antara-mitos-dan-realitas-kata-ali-azhar-d is 404-compliant.
- I can't assess https://www-indonesiana-id.translate.goog/read/176951/ali-azhar-d-tradisi-sedekah-bumi-bertahan-di-tengah-perubahan-zaman?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp (language barrier). Automated translation, once again, fails on this page.
- We can't use https://kumparan.com/bengawannews/profil-musisi-ali-azhar-d-lengkap-dengan-umur-dan-agama-1yw1Q22kupu (connexion to subject, no editorial oversight). Clearly labeled as "Media Partner Content", meaning it wasn't actually written by the outlet's journalists or subjected to their editorial processes.
- I can't assess https://nnc-frontend.netralnews.com/mengenal-ali-azhar-konten-kreator-sejarah-yang-lulus-pesantren-hanya-dalam-2-tahun/YW1jTW5iTkFlRTZDb0dTL0xWQU5vUT09 (language barrier). Automated translation fails on this page.
- https://beritajatim.com/mahasiswa-uc-surabaya-ciptakan-iklan-kreatif-untuk-lawan-pinjol-ilegal looks okay, but this seems like a "chicken-dinner" local-interest type of story that wouldn't much help for notability.
- https://mediaindonesia.com/hiburan/700794/kreator-konten-ini-beri-edukasi-soal-sejarah-surabaya is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Prose interview.
- https://www.harianpijar.com/read/2024/09/17/46503/profil-konten-kreator-ali-azhar-d-dari-kegagalan-hingga-edukasi-sejarah-surabaya has been discussed and dismissed; it's identical to the Media Indonesia source above.
- https://www.ciputra.ac.id/fikom/official-selection-indonesia-western-australia-film-festival-2025/ is a non-sequitur.
- https://www.liputan6.com/amp/5742404/kjri-perth-promosikan-film-karya-anak-bangsa-jelang-indonesia-western-australia-film-festival-2025 is a non-sequitur.
- Of the sources I can assess, only one is close to good, and it doesn't make a compelling case for notability. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that the OP has been glocked as a User:Andiprayono097 sock. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @MR Bang Jago: The US does not have press rules by law. Refer to my "Decode" subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
21:43, 18 December 2024 review of submission by Insane Volunteer
[edit]can you please advice me Insane Volunteer (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- You did not show that this person is a notable person. 331dot (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
23:45, 18 December 2024 review of submission by SallySharpeIrvin
[edit]I submitted a page but it is not active. I’m wondering why? I used very good sources and accurate information. SallySharpeIrvin (talk) 23:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- SallySharpeIrvin I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" part. You haven't actually submitted it for a review yet, you need to click the button on the screen. I might suggest that you look at Referencing for beginners to learn about how to format references first. 331dot (talk) 23:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)