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December 16

02:40:27, 16 December 2014 review of draft by Strnbrg59

Strnbrg59 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Mordechai Tsanin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I'm almost ready to submit, I just have a few questions first.

1. I'm not clear on how to do footnotes. As you can see, I have a bibliography and my footnotes just say <ref>1</ref>, <ref>2</ref> etc, where the number refers to the order of items in my bibliography.

2. I'm also not clear on how to mention, *in the body* of my article, the titles of Tsanin's books. As you can see, I mention them first in their original language (Yiddish, in its own alphabet), and I follow that by a Romanization of the Yiddish title, and finally my own rendition of that title into English.

3. Articles about Mordechai Tsanin already exist in the Hebrew and Yiddish Wikipediae. I'd like to link to them but I'm not clear on how to do that. (My article is not, however, a translation of either of those. Doing a translation was my original goal, but a helpful Wikipedia editor (Chris Troutman) pointed out that those articles lack footnotes. They do, however, have bibliographies, and so I read some of those sources, and based my article on them. Unfortunately, that meant I had to omit numerous interesting, but undocumented details (not least -- the exact date of Tsanin's birth!))

Strnbrg59 (talk) 02:40, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Strnbrg59:

1: You don't need to put the number in between the <ref></ref> tags, you put the content of the reference, and the website will automatically number it for you. For example:

When the family relocated to Warsaw, he embarked on secular studies, at a Polish [[Gymnasium_(school)|gymnasium]].<ref name=flame>Rakhel Rozhansky, "Keeper of the flame" (in Hebrew), [[Haaretz]] Daily, 13 February 2009. http://www.haaretz.co.il/literature/1.1245468</ref>

When you preview or save the article the tags will automatically show up as a numbered superscript and the reference will show up in the references section. Since I put name=flame in the reference tag, if I want to use that reference again, all I do is type <ref name=flame />. For example:

From there he turned back west, aiming at [[Mandatory_Palestine|British Mandatory Palestine]], which he reached in 1941 via India and finally Egypt.<ref name=flame />

If you do this, you don't need a separate bibliography section.

2: There are special templates for using transliterations and translations. Transliterations are typically in italics, which you indicate with two single apostrophies before and after the text. You would write the the transliteration using the ''{{transl|yi}}'' and the original Yiddish using hebrew script using the {{lang-yi}} template. For example:

''{{transl|yi|"Oifang"}}'' ({{langx|yi|אויפאנג}}, {{langx|en|"Dawn"}})

would show up as "Oifang" (Yiddish: אויפאנג, English: "Dawn")

3: On the left-hand of the page near the bottom of the menu is a section called "Languages". Click on "Add links" to add links to articles in other languages.

I'll go ahead and implement some of these changes in your draft as an example. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 05:04, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

10:11:53, 16 December 2014 review of submission by Quincy908

Quincy908 (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Christopher Osayande Alfred (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I am making of assistant due to rejection of my Articals.--Quincy908 (talk) 10:11, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quincy908 (talk) 10:11, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quincy908, your draft will not be accepted until you prove that this figure meets WP:Notability. Please read the Notability policy, and note the kind of sourcing you must include for this to be published. Only if/when you add sourcing should you click "Resubmit" to put your draft up for next review. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:21, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 12:51:01, 16 December 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Me.ujjwal

Me.ujjwal (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Raaftaar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I had written an article following all the boundaries of wikipedia. I have written about a well known personality which information was not available but you rejected. Please think about your decision once Its ridiculous to delete important article like this

Me.ujjwal (talk) 12:51, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Me.ujjwal, I can assure you that you did not at all "follow all the boundaries" in the slightest. Articles about musicians absolutely must follow the guidelines given at WP:Notability (music). You clearly have not read those guidelines, since you provided no sourcing whatsoever, so please do not accuse others of being "ridiculous" since we are carefully reviewing your draft per the guidelines.

If you want to publish an article on a musician, read that policy I linked above. Note that "Sourcing" does not mean Facebook, the artist's own page, Soundcloud, Discogs, etc. You must apply sourcing from serious newspapers, entertainment industry magazines, etc. which WP:Verify the facts you state about Raaftaar's career and accomplishments. Please review the Notability guideline, add sources, and click Resubmit. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

16:51:46, 16 December 2014 review of submission by Fuoco9

Fuoco9 (talk · contribs)
- No draft specified!

i want to save the work that was done to compose this page. i have a group of people who would like to do further work on the page and publish it.

Fuoco9 (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

i had started to write a very complete page on my history as an artist. one of your editors deleted the page. i now understand that one can not post a page about themselves. however , there was much work and history done on this page about me. i would like to retrieve the page, because i have someone who would like to edit and post this page. is there some way i can retrieve this deleted page??? i am robert fuoco (rob camp fuoco) artist, designer of historic gardens , and director of sharing nature non profit for kids. thanks very much.

@Fuoco9: You can request that the page be emailed to you at WP:REFUND. Please don't post your email address to talk pages — it invites spam. Your email address information is in your Wikipedia account, and other Wikipedia users can email you from Special:EmailUser/Fuoco9 without having to know your email address. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:01, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Fuoco9: I took a look at the text of the deleted page. It has a lot of promotional language, and it also includes ideas and opinions, whereas an encyclopedia article should be just plain facts, backed up with references to published sources such as reviews, news reports and magazine articles written by people aren't connected with you. It also has links to external web sites in the middle of the text. If the article is written by your "people", it may be just as difficult for them to remain neutral as it would be for you. You don't say where the text will be published once these people have worked on it, but if it's Wikipedia you had in mind it will have to be substantially different. —Anne Delong (talk) 00:00, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]