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any comments on how to get up to GA status Franko2nd 14:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article already has a decent amount of information, which gives it a good starting point, but it could still use more. Here are a few of the main issues I saw at a glance.
  • First of all, turn the html into a standard infobox, {{Infobox Historic building}} seems to be the one used for things like this.
  • The "Today" section should be a subsection of "History".
  • Each of the sections is awfully short, they either need to be expanded, or the sections need to be redone. With only a paragraph or two each, they're disruptive, rather than helpful. For example:
===Keep===
The keep has four floors.
That is not a section. A single sentence does not deserve a header, no matter how you look at it. I would suggest leaving the "Keep" header in, remove each floor's header, then make the paragraphs blend together. Perhaps more information can be found, too.
  • Sources should be cited inline (see WP:CITE and WP:FN), and need to be formatted properly. I've found these helpful in the past.
  • The intro should be a summary of the information given in the rest of the article, not something completely different.
  • The history section is as much a description of the architecture as of the history. Can the two topics be split, and more history added? It was built for defense, but what happened between the time it was built and now? Has it seen any battles? Hosted any major events?
  • If/When the history and architecture are separated, the entire "Interior" section should be moved to the new architecture section. I'd also suggest not making such a big deal about interior vs exterior, unless significantly more details are added. Just describe each building in its own subsection, with separate paragraphs for inside and out.
  • Pictures should be spread out better.
  • A pass at copyeditting wouldn't hurt, either, though I'm unclear about what specifically constitutes the level of writing required for GA, so it might be ok until A/FA.
Hope that helps! -Bbik★ 17:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lazy review by mcginnly The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

  • Consider adding more links to the article; per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) and Wikipedia:Build the web, create links to relevant articles.[?]
  • Per Wikipedia:What is a featured article?, Images should have concise captions.[?]
  • Please convert tables from HTML syntax to Help:Table wiki-markup.
  • There may be an applicable infobox for this article. For example, see Template:Infobox Biography, Template:Infobox School, or Template:Infobox City.[?] (Note that there might not be an applicable infobox; remember that these suggestions are not generated manually)
  • Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), there should be a non-breaking space -   between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of 3 metres, use 3 metres, which when you are editing the page, should look like: 3 metres.[?]
  • As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use January 30 was a great day.[?]
  • Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally do not start with articles ('the', 'a(n)'). For example, if there was a section called ==The Biography==, it should be changed to ==Biography==.[?]
  • Watch for redundancies that make the article too wordy instead of being crisp and concise. (You may wish to try Tony1's redundancy exercises.)
    • While additive terms like “also”, “in addition”, “additionally”, “moreover”, and “furthermore” may sometimes be useful, overusing them when they aren't necessary can instead detract from the brilliancy of the article. This article has 12 additive terms, a bit too much.
    • Vague terms of size often are unnecessary and redundant - “some”, “a variety/number/majority of”, “several”, “a few”, “many”, “any”, and “all”. For example, “All pigs are pink, so we thought of a number of ways to turn them green.”
  • This article needs footnotes, preferably in the cite.php format recommended by WP:WIAFA. Simply, enclose inline citations, with WP:CITE or WP:CITE/ES information, with <ref>THE FOOTNOTE</ref>. At the bottom of the article, in a section named “References” or “Footnotes”, add <div class="references-small"><references/></div>.[?]
  • Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Mcginnly | Natter 08:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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