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Rodrigo performing "All-American Bitch"
Rodrigo performing "All-American Bitch"

"All-American Bitch" is a song by American singer-songwriter Olivia Rodrigo from her second studio album, Guts. Lyrically, it is satire and explores Rodrigo's concerns about society's double standards and contradictory expectations for women. Rodrigo co-wrote the song with its producer, Dan Nigro, and believed it captured feelings she had repressed since the age of 15. It begins as a folk song and transitions into pop-punk during the chorus, incorporating influences of punk, rock, grunge, and pop rock. "All-American Bitch" was viewed as a successful opening track that appealed to Generation Z by music critics, who praised Rodrigo's vocals and the production. The song reached number 13 in the US and the top 10 in Australia, Ireland, and New Zealand. Rodrigo performed it on Saturday Night Live, where she stabbed a red-colored cake at a tea party and splattered it on her face; the performance received positive reviews. She also included the song on the set list of the 2024–2025 Guts World Tour. (Full article...)

Coordinator comment I confess to feeling a bit dubious about this one because of the name. If I am to run it, I'd like to see a strong consensus. Wehwalt (talk) 17:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While this is a fine article for some other day, I am not comfortable with the song article for that particular day. I remember that SusunW had a suggestion closer related to women's rights and international relevance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about this song for 20 February, the singer's birthday, NØ, Gog the Mild? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MF has just pulled it from a February slot, but - right now - I could reinstate it on the 20th. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will let you three take a call. I mean, it doesn't necessarily need to go on on a special occasion since the last Rodrigo TFA was a long long time ago. WP:TFAP for March looks largely empty, so I am fine with it getting the day prior to Women's Day.--NØ 11:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think a similar objection would attend running it on March 7 or 9, given time zones. I can offer another March date if February 20 is no good.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on my understanding, Gerda Arendt just prefers the article SusunW had suggested for IWD. It is not because of an issue with the song title being inappropriate for the occasion. This is a feminist song, so that would not make sense imo.--NØ 14:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It may be "a feminist song", but there are plenty of women who feel uncomfortable with the label "bitch", given how often it is used as an insult. - SchroCat (talk) 08:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The line in the song is "I'm a perfect all-American bitch" and it is clearly reclaimed and used in a positive context by Rodrigo, who is a woman herself. It would be an insult to the intelligence of our readers for us to assume they are going to be offended by it. Anyways, I will take Wehwalt up on the offer of a random March date and withdraw this. Please close it. Thanks.--NØ 09:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll leave it open on a non-specific date so I know where to find it. Further comments are welcome, and what is the article that SusunW thinks would be good for March 8? I'm starting to put together the March schedule.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No-one is insulting anyone's intelligence. It's a contentious term, end of story. Same way that other terms that have been reclaimed by a group or community are still offensive to many while being acceptable to others. It doesn't matter if this is claimed to be "a feminist song" or not: some people will be offended that we've decided to mark International Women's Day by using an article whose title includes the word "bitch", however supposedly positive the message behind it.
No problem running it on another day in the month, as long as it's a few days away from the 8th. - SchroCat (talk) 15:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure what putting it in direct quotes again and again is supposed to accomplish, but this is most certainly a feminist song. I only emphasize this so no one misunderstands my initial intentions in nominating it for IWD. Another date in March sounds good to me, though, Schro.--NØ 16:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I put it in quotes because I was quoting your words. - SchroCat (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What article is that?--Wehwalt (talk) 20:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Coordinator comment Right now I'm planning on running this on March 3 (subject to change) and Sally Ride on March 8.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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