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Template:Sheffield Tigers speedway team 2010

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No transclusions of this navbox, and no incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Social liberalism sidebar

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No transclusions. Created in 2022. Other templates, such as {{Liberalism sidebar}}, appear to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WGA Awards/color

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No transclusions or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that’s my bad. It was supposed to be used both at its own base template and at Template:Infobox film awards/style (like many of the others at the latter). Issue was just deciding whether to use #ABCDEF or #dcc09b before implementing. I can happily resolve by transcluding to at least at one of the two. — HTGS (talk) 22:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WP AFL playerlist

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author request Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Use of this template was apparently discontinued in favor of links to Wikidata sometime in 2016 or 2017. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE Did it's job at the time. The-Pope (talk) 00:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:Cabinet of Donald Trump

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No transclusions of this article content. It has possibly been copied into the relevant articles, since the (first?) Trump administration is over. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CD Universidad San Martín squad

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No transclusions of this "current squad" template; no updates since 2021. A recent roster is on the team's page. This navbox appears to be unwanted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NAL user page

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No transclusions, no matching category, no incoming links. Created in 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I userfied the page so I could maintain the code. Thanks! JamieF (talk) 16:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NYCS Fourth south night

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No transclusions. Other templates appear to be preferred, or the services on these transit lines have changed, or something else. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. A night-only template for this line doesn't seem to be needed right now. This might have been useful prior to 2016, when the BMT Fourth Avenue Line had a substantially separate service pattern at night and during the day, but this purpose is now served by other templates like Template:NYCS Fourth south. However, this template could be recreated if the need arises. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:North West Conservative Party MPs

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No transclusions. The more comprehensive {{Conservative Party UK MPs}} appears to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:South West England Labour Party MPs

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No transclusions. {{Labour Party UK MPs}} is more comprehensive and appears to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Template categories

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No transclusions. Created in 2018. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tennis surface color

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Women in Red worklists

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links except for a 2018 talk page post asking its creator about whether it is needed. It does not appear to be needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Leftblock

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No transclusions. Other templates appear to be preferred. Created in 2016. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Madurai Metro Infobox station line

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in March 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TransitTicket TnG and other unused Malaysia road templates

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No transclusions, documentation, template parameters, or incoming links from discussions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:UEFA Conference League performance by nation

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Apparent article content with no transclusions, documentation, template parameters, or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:USRepSuccessionBoxNeeded

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No transclusions. Created in 2009. The succession box templates are easy enough to use that people do not need these "under construction" placeholders. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment — there SHOULD be no transclusions for a subst'd template (as originally designed). This got a lot of use, back when building the political pages. Perhaps everything is in such good shape these days that everything is already finished. There aren't many new US Reps.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to a single template, {{AFLW}}, which uses a simple switch statement. There is zero reason to have a dozen templates when one is just as easy to use, and easier to maintain. The merge is trivial, simply replacing a space with a pipe, as shown in this edit. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep – is this really necessary? Just creates a whole lot of work, especially if applied project-wide to other similar templates as well, and I don't understand how one template would necessarily be "easier to maintain" when the existing templates are just as easy to edit. A final decision/consensus hasn't been reached at this discussion yet either, so feel like Jonesey95's jumped the gun here. We've got a system that works; if it ain't broke... 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 17:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see how it creates more work. With one template, there should be less work in the long run, and it will be trivially easy to add more name options, like "Melbourne" instead of just "Mel", which makes the template easier to use for editors. The merge itself will be done by willing TFD gnomes, and it will take only a few minutes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We don't need to do anything like add more name options/variations; this just feels like a personal preference. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 09:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not my personal preference; it is that of editors who create redirects like {{AFLW Bri}}. Those will no longer be necessary. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The editors who work on the project have the preference for {{AFLW Bri}} etc, while you who has no connection to the project has a preference for {{AFLW}} (which again is your invention and that name should actually redirect to {{AFL Women's}}). Whose preference do you think is more important? --SuperJew (talk) 13:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge – these templates must not be used in cs1|2 templates because the rendering in the citation misleads the reader.
This one is taken from Olivia Levicki ({{AFLW PA}} has been replaced with its expansion for clarity):
{{cite web|url=https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/1145063/switching-codes-levicki-joins-port|title=Switching codes: Levicki joins Port|publisher=[[Telstra]]|work=[[Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL Women's)|Port Adelaide]]|date=8 June 2022}}
"Switching codes: Levicki joins Port". Port Adelaide. Telstra. 8 June 2022.
|work= should not be an easter egg. Port Adelaide is visually indistinguishable from Port Adelaide. Usually when a template should not be used in cs1|2 templates, we add {{COinS safe|n}} to the offending template's documentation. In this case, {{COinS safe|n}} is not appropriate so some other template must used or newly created. As these templates do not have any documentation (shame, shame, shame) that too will needs be created for nineteen more-or-less templates. One template, one documentation page, one don't-use-this-template-in-citations notice. Need another AFLW xxx link? Don't create a new template, add the wikilink to {{AFLW}}, plus a minimal amount of associated documentation, and you're done.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry mate, not sure what most of you wrote means. Could you write in English what you are meaning to say?
Regarding "add the wikilink to {{AFLW}}, that was created today so no need to act like it's been around forever and in use. --SuperJew (talk) 20:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I said what I meant and meant what I said. What do you not understand? That {{AFLW}} was created today is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that I said nothing about it being around forever and in use.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All your techno jargon babble is unclear to most anyone. --SuperJew (talk) 23:11, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are avoiding the question I posed. If you do not understand something that I wrote, ask. Derogatory generalizations about my writing style don't contribute anything to this discussion.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand anything you wrote mate. The whole thing is one big techno babble. And don't try to turn this around as if I'm derogatory against you, I'm commenting on this specific text you produced. --SuperJew (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep They are efficient and save time for editors. It's a system that works as 4TheWynne said, and isn't against any WP consensus or guidelines or anything. Honestly, I'm not even undestanding for sure what the argument against these and the WAFL+WAFLW ones is. --SuperJew (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Show how these twenty-ish templates are more efficient and save more time for editors than a single template like {{AFLW}}.
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 21:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well right now with all this disruption, we can't even use them for substing as it substs in the big red textbox warning that it's up for deletion. --SuperJew (talk) 23:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    or look at this for another example of the disruption this is causing. --SuperJew (talk) 23:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You have given examples of your issues with the WP:TFD process but you did not answer my question. Why not?
    —Trappist the monk (talk) 00:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I appreciate that you're not answering questions by deflecting that someone isn't answering your question. But to answer your efficiency question - the template {{AFLW}} should be a redirect to {{AFL Women's}} - you just got "lucky" that the league is relatively new and that redirect hadn't been created yet. Which means that to have a single template will need something like {{AFLW team}} and then we'll also need time to turn over everything on the project, also editors will have to relearn this, and even after that it'll still be less efficient as it's twice the length. I've been through this story with the {{A-League team}} template and even now I curse the day of the change (and also btw to add a new team is much more annoying than creating a new template as it would be done on the current setup on AFLW). --SuperJew (talk) 01:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    These are more efficient, because they are consistent across leagues. For example, you can't easily make a single {{WAFL}} solution, as that is aleady in use for a navbox. So the project-wide solution becomes messy. The-Pope (talk) 01:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is an aside; other league templates come next. Template names like {{WAFL}} are editor-unfriendly names that violate the template guideline that says Template function should be clear from the template name, so they should be moved. That's a different discussion, though, which can be had later. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You obviously have a problem with it on a project level. So why not have the discussion on the project level? Which as Pope says, will be messy as a whole solution. Also on the specific league, the template {{AFLW}} should be a redirect to {{AFL Women's}} - you just got "lucky" that the league is relatively new and that redirect hadn't been created yet. Also, I have to ask, have you ever edited anything in the WP:AFL scope? Do you have any connection to footy? --SuperJew (talk) 01:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And here is the kicker. "Template function should be clear from the template name". So you've just invalidated that by creating {{AFLW}} whose function isn't at all clear from the template name. Right? I mean it could be anything do do with AFLW. Will you therefore try to force us to use the not very convenient "shortcut" but fully compliant template title of something like {{Australian rules football club editor assistance shortcut|league=AFLW|club=WB}} instead of {{AFLW WB}}? Please just WP:IAR and get out of the way to let us continue being efficient and useful and helpful and here to build an encyclopedia, not demand changes on others. The-Pope (talk) 05:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hear, hear; it really just feels like a personal preference is being pushed on the project for no real added benefit. 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 09:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nothing has been invalidated. I made {{AFLW}} to demonstrate how easy it is to use this new template and convert articles to using it (replacing a space with a pipe character). Of course that name should be a redirect, which the template guideline explicitly allows, and the template itself should have a readable name. That step can be done later. A project-wide discussion is fine with me; there are many templates in the project that have unreadable, editor-unfriendly names, and they would benefit from a comprehensive, consistent naming scheme. All of that is outside the scope of this TFD, however. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So you're taking namespace just for funsies as a sandbox experiment? --SuperJew (talk) 13:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A project-wide discussion is fine with me; there are many templates in the project that have unreadable, editor-unfriendly names, and they would benefit from a comprehensive, consistent naming scheme. So withdraw this silly TfD that all editors from the project that commented here are against, and let us work it out on the project's talk page. --SuperJew (talk) 13:08, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Echoing 4TheWynne's comment above, can we close this one without prejudice for now and have the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_13#WAFL_link_templates and Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_13#WAFLW_link_templates. I'm in favour of Jonesey95's proposed merged template for the reasons stated here, but opening a third parallel discussion here and starting it with a different premise/justification to the other two is triplicating the effort we need to get to a consensus. Aspirex (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just from a completeness standpoint, you missed Template:AFLW Ade from the nomination. Aspirex (talk) 21:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed. Thank you for that helpful comment. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment agree with Aspirex that having the same discussion in 3 locations is not helpful and won't come up with the best solution. Close all 3 down, WP:TROUT the nominators, discuss it at WP:AFL, identify the best solution(s), implement them, then delete the unused old templates if the single template outcome is preferred. The-Pope (talk) 00:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AFLW Yar

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by BusterD (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 14:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. If needed, {{AFLW}} can be used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:4A user icon

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No transclusions. Created in 2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2024 Maharaja KSCA T20

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2002 FIVB Men's Volleyball World Championship qualification

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Navbox with no blue links in the body. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ice Challenge

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Not a significant enough skating competition to warrant navigation boxes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 05:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. International Figure Skating Classic templates

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Not a significant enough skating competition to warrant navigation boxes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 05:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:India FIFA World Cup record

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No transclusions, documentation, incoming links from discussions, or template parameters. Created in July 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:H:IPAc-is

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ESPint

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No transclusions. Created in March 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Robert Low

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Navbox with no links to articles in the body. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Jaipur-Jodhpur Railway Line

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Unused railway line diagram, created in 2020, with no incoming links from article space. Jaipur Junction railway station does not contain a link to Jaipur–Jodhpur railway line or anything that appears to resemble it. Without a related article, this diagram does not appear to be useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Interpolated comment

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Moved without redirect to User:Mathglot/sandbox/Templates/Interpolated comment with comment "Will use out of my User space instead." by Mathglot (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. Possibly an abandoned experiment. Created in March 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:02, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:Integral theory3

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No transclusions. {{Integral theory}} appears to be preferred for this content. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox storm IF

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No transclusions. Appears to be an abandoned experiment from early 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Indian religions

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No transclusions of this sidebar template, created in 2017. {{Religion in India topics}} and other navboxes appear to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Incumbent U.S. House Speaker

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No transclusions of this simple wikilink template, and no incoming links. Created in 2015, but apparently abandoned or never used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:56, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:If usertalk of

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No transclusions. Created in 2014, but not used anywhere. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:If this year

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning delete. 3 years and no transclusions means that while this might have a "Plausible use case" in theory, in practice, none have been found. Gonnym (talk) 09:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ITN file

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:High-fiber foods

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No transclusions or incoming links. Apparent article content with no template parameters. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hindu tithi ordinal

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Gss2Wikidata

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2019. This template is not mentioned in the shared documentation that it uses. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: from original author. Probably never used.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 12:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Football transfers

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2013. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:50, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ERL KT

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Simple template wrappers with no transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is no need for these wrappers of wrappers. Gonnym (talk) 10:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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