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Template:Pakistan squad 2018 SAFF Championship

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 00:17, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pakistan squad 2018 SAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Albania squad 1946 Balkan Cup (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Albania squad 2000 Rothmans International Tournament (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Denmark 2018 replacement football squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Thailand squad 2002 Asian Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Malaysia squad 2017 Southeast Asian Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Nepal squad 2013 SAFF Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Spain men's national 5-a-side football team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2016 Paralympics United States men's national 7-a-side football team (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Long established consensus on WP:FOOTY and per the outcomes of previous TfD discussions (example here, here, here and here), international squad navigational boxes should only exist for the men and women's: World Cup, Confederations Cup, Olympics and each continent's top level competition. None of these templates are for such a competition, and therefore should be deleted. Articles already exist containing the squads of all teams for these competitions, for example 2018 SAFF Championship squads, 1946 Balkan Cup, 2018 Slovakia v Denmark football match, Football at the 2002 Asian Games – Squads, Football 7-a-side at the 2016 Summer Paralympics – Team squads, etc. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Template:Denmark 2018 replacement football squad due to special circumstances. I created it. All 17 players with articles only got their article because they played this one match 2018 Slovakia v Denmark football match. It was discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 119#Denmark national team strike. They are otherwise non-notable low-tier football or futsal players who at short notice replaced the normal team. None of them have any other navboxes. Their notability is closely tied to this match and the navbox ties their articles together. Without it, many of them would almost be orphans. Some would only be linked in the match article. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:14, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article on the match can serve to connect the player articles. As consensus exists to only use navboxes for major international tournaments, I don't see the need for its use for a single friendly match. There should be enough topics elsewhere on Wikipedia that can link to the players to avoid orphans. This is not the only case of a team featuring mostly single-cap, lower division players, having a navbox for every case would defeat the purpose of why this consensus exists. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Denmark 2018. Delete paralympic and Albanian squads. Neutral on Asian Games, Southeast Games, and SAFF Championship squads though since there could be arguments for or against them as all three can technically be considered major or small competitions. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 22:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The AFC Asian Cup and the AFC Women's Asian Cup are the only two top-level continental competitions in Asia that merit navigational boxes. The purpose of this prior consensus is to avoid navboxes for these lower level competitions. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all, I don't understand why the Denmark team (special as it was for a one-off) needs a navbox... Giant Snowman 14:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all, the Denmark game was not that historically significant. It was a huge novelty which got media coverage, but an article about the match is enough. Geschichte (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 17:59, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheTVExpert (talk) 20:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all per the long established consensus. That Denmark team doesn't need a special template either, they're less notable as footballers than the usual Denmark team. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:56, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom. By the way, is this consensus being documented somewhere on WP:FOOTY? There might be many of these because the templates are created without knowing that this consensus exists. -- AquaDTRS (talk) 18:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:UKPower

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The result of the discussion was merge. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 17:06, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:UKPower (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Energy in the United Kingdom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:UKPower with Template:Energy in the United Kingdom.
The Companies section of Energy in the United Kingdom has all of the links in Template:UKPower, so no need for it to be in both templates Joseph2302 (talk) 11:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:47, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Crisis in America

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) TheTVExpert (talk) 14:47, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Crisis in America (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This is a textbook case of WP:SYNTH. It is inappropriate to combine these events/protests/legislation topics to form a "Crisis in America" narrative/conclusion, unless reliable sources synthesize such a grouping/title. — Goszei (talk) 02:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a catchall subject that could include almost anything from the last 250 years of United States history - if not the 400 years since Europeans first settled here. I agree with Goszei that this is synthesis, not based on Reliable Source coverage or any other clearly defined criterion about what should be included. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. What's more, e.g. the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting doesn't even describe it as a crisis (let alone a national one), and what about all the other articles about school shootings? Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:03, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The deletion should include Template:History of the United States (2008–present) (created as a redirect to this one, apparently based on the assumption that there has never been a crisis in the US before 2008). Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- If this template is deleted, redirects to it will be deleted anyhow so there is no need for such a bundling. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 06:53, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ASAP per nom. This is textbook synthesis to force some type of narrative when one is not needed. Speedy delete please. RopeTricks (talk) 04:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SYNTH. Note a similar discussion concerning Crisis in America is taking place at RfD. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 06:53, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Ironically, I was about to nominate an incoming redirect to this template ... just to find that the creator of the redirect also created this template, and that I agree with the nominator's statement. Steel1943 (talk) 06:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:12, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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