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February 18

Template:Login required

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The result of the discussion was delete as redundant to {{registration required}} or {{subscription required}}. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:18, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Login required (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{registration required}} or {{subscription required}} and to the Citation Style 1 templates with |registration=yes or |subscription=yes. 126 uses. Gadget850^talk 10:20, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as redundant, after replacement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:18, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Secret

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The result of the discussion was merge per nom. No quorum on renaming

Template:Secret (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Secret singles (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Secret with Template:Secret singles.
I merged some of the band's single/album articles, and I don't think the singles template is needed. There are currently six singles linked in the singles template, and three of them are already linked in the main template. The other three links will fit in the main template. Random86 (talk) 03:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to {{Secret (South Korean band)}} per Secret (South Korean band) since this is NOT about secret -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 06:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment regarding notice - @Random86: Please notify the creator of Template:Secret singles that this TfD proposed merge discussion is pending. Thank you. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- I just notified them. Thanks for the reminder; I'm still new at this. Random86 (talk) 22:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not a problem, Random. It happens to all of us from time to time -- thanks for taking care of it. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Microconsoles

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The result of the discussion was keep, there is no consensus that using generational templates aides navigation as well as this template. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:26, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Microconsoles (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to the seventh and eighth generation {{Video game consoles}} templates. Presumably was created before the video game console templates were merged. Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 01:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment no consoles are listed at that template, only the generation articles, so not redundant, since the links do not exist at the suggested redundancy -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 06:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand your comment. The redundancy exists at the level of the generations. If we keep this template going across generations, it's going to get huge and unnavigable. It's a lot better to just put them in with their respective generation. If we had done this with all the game consoles ever made, the template would be huge and unnavigable. All of the links of the Microconsoles template are also in their separate generations, which is all they need and I don't understand why people think otherwise. --Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 17:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It spans multiple generations, per your own rationale. Therefore the consoles for another generation would not appear as interlinked in your "redundant" template. Since the template only displays links to the generation selected, and not the console type, there is missing linkages to out of generation consoles. The out of generation links are only the generation articles, which are not proper linkages for linking by type of console. You may wish to merge consoletype templates to your suggested template with "consoletype=" parameter to choose navigation by type instead of generation (or in addition to generation) -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 03:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This template encompasses microconsoles as a whole across all generations, which is not something {{Video game consoles}} is currently able to portray cleanly. -- ferret (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is that something that's inherently needed? The generational boxes are separated to avoid the clutter of consoles with little relation to each other being on the same template. Keeping this template for a long period of time will result in unnavigable clutter. List of microconsoles will do for microconsoles across generations. --Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 17:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's some very long discussions about how these templates are arranged at the talk page for {{Video game consoles}}, from the latest merger efforts regarding these console templates. Not to "OTHER STUFF" but templates for the other types of consoles also exists, as consensus was not to attempt to merge them into the primary template. This template isn't being used any different that {{Home video game consoles}} and {{Handheld game consoles}} -- ferret (talk) 18:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps {{video game consoles}} should be renamed to {{video game consoles by generation}} while a separate {{video game consoles by type}} exist to merge these other templates; then {{video game consoles}} would wrap both by generation and by type templates. The default display would list all generations and each type, but not any specific console. When |generation= is entered, a specific generation is displayed. When |type= is entered, a specific type is displayed. Thus both could be displayed, but to reduce complexity and maintenance, the generation and type templates would remain separate. The wrapper would pass generation and type to the respective subtemplates -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 03:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agree with Ferret. In particular, this template is not being used any different than {{Home video game consoles}} and {{Handheld game consoles}}. Refer to earlier discussions for more details. --Cartakes (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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