Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 May 13
May 13
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Nav box of doubtful worth. For a club in a non professional league and a minor one at that. Unlikely that very many players who could feature in it would ever be notable enough for their own article so difficult to see how this aids navigation. Fenix down (talk) 17:14, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- HB Tórshavn has a template and plays in the same football division as TB Tvøroyri, so I thought that it was ok to make a template for TB Tvøroyri as well. Only one of the players and the manager has played on the Faroe Islands national team, and Nicky Deverdics is English and has played in England and Scotland. Faroese players must have played on the national team in order to get an articles on the English Wikipedia. Eight of HB Tórshavn's players have articles on this Wikipedia. This is the first time I have tried to make such a template, it didn't occur to me that it would not be ok, because HB Tórshavn has had a squad-template for six months now. EileenSanda (talk) 17:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, what do you mean by saying: "...and a minor one at that". TB Tvøroyri is the oldest football club of the Faroe Islands, founded in 1892, they have won the Faroese Championship 7 times and the Faroe Islands Cup 5 times, and they currently play in the top division of the Faroes, so how do you define the club as a minor one? EileenSanda (talk) 09:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- It's not that I think that there could never be a use for such a template, but at the moment, you should ask yourself, how it improves navigation. Currently it is of no use on the club article (as no such templates really are) as the squad listing is already there. There are then only three other article where it could be used. Whilst it could be used to navigate between these three articles, the domination of redlinks indicates that it is probably not necessary. The Thorshavn one is also not brilliant (few are in non FPL leagues) but it does have seven live links. Personally that is too few for my liking, but it is more of a borderline case and I thought that others might also think so. I meant minor on a global scale and was referring to the league, not the club and drew that conclusion from their allocation of continental club cup places. Fenix down (talk) 15:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, you meant on a global scale.EileenSanda (talk) 15:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- It's not that I think that there could never be a use for such a template, but at the moment, you should ask yourself, how it improves navigation. Currently it is of no use on the club article (as no such templates really are) as the squad listing is already there. There are then only three other article where it could be used. Whilst it could be used to navigate between these three articles, the domination of redlinks indicates that it is probably not necessary. The Thorshavn one is also not brilliant (few are in non FPL leagues) but it does have seven live links. Personally that is too few for my liking, but it is more of a borderline case and I thought that others might also think so. I meant minor on a global scale and was referring to the league, not the club and drew that conclusion from their allocation of continental club cup places. Fenix down (talk) 15:27, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, what do you mean by saying: "...and a minor one at that". TB Tvøroyri is the oldest football club of the Faroe Islands, founded in 1892, they have won the Faroese Championship 7 times and the Faroe Islands Cup 5 times, and they currently play in the top division of the Faroes, so how do you define the club as a minor one? EileenSanda (talk) 09:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Fenix down (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Fenix down (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - not enough links to provide useful navigation. The rule of thumb is five articles, and when most of these red-links are pointing to non-notable footballers, I don't see the value in this navbox. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Delete - WP:NENAN. Not enough notable articles to navigate between. GiantSnowman 12:42, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete, as they are unused. I am happy to revive them if anyone has a strong desire to see them in use. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
- Template:KAZe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Lenar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Blank. Would've been a Template of a non-notable company anyway. EditorE (talk) 11:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- See the histories. These were blanked and deleted from articles by Goslajuavi (talk · contribs) without any apparent discussion. Did you notice that before nominating them? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:54, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, let's discuss it then. Having these templates is deeply unecessary and "dangerous", because if Wikipedia tolerate things like this, then that editor will start "abusing" by "spamming" Wikipedia with more of these utterly useless templates and other things. Well, in fact he already "spammed" Wikipedia with thousands of not-useful and false information but that's other story. What's the point having a template with Lenar games? Is it useful? I say no. But it's just my opinion. In fact, I think Lenar page should be deleted, because the page is useless. The company never published a single game. Normally these video game companies have a page in the Japanese Wikipedia. However there's no Lenar even in the Japanese Wikipedia... I think Lenar should be nominated for deletion again. Regards. --Goslajuavi (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- how is this different from Category:Video game navigational boxes by company? Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Lenar and KAZe never published a game. I still don't understand what's the point of having these templates. Ok, there are always exceptions of course. If the creator of Lenar wiki page and template wants to improve something about Lenar, then it would be nice improving the article and not creating a template. The template's "info" (list of games to be more precise) is already in the Wiki page. Also, there's already the Lenar category. (...) category, template, what's next? perhaps a category named "List of games developed by Lenar and published by some other random company"? Look at the page, no logo, no info about the foundation, etc, basically nothing. --Goslajuavi (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- how is this different from Category:Video game navigational boxes by company? Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, let's discuss it then. Having these templates is deeply unecessary and "dangerous", because if Wikipedia tolerate things like this, then that editor will start "abusing" by "spamming" Wikipedia with more of these utterly useless templates and other things. Well, in fact he already "spammed" Wikipedia with thousands of not-useful and false information but that's other story. What's the point having a template with Lenar games? Is it useful? I say no. But it's just my opinion. In fact, I think Lenar page should be deleted, because the page is useless. The company never published a single game. Normally these video game companies have a page in the Japanese Wikipedia. However there's no Lenar even in the Japanese Wikipedia... I think Lenar should be nominated for deletion again. Regards. --Goslajuavi (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Comment. Both templates were created by the same user. Probably has something to do with their blanking... User who blanked the page seems to mostly remove edits by User:GVnayR. --Jtalledo (talk) 10:42, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
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