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The result of the debate was delete. JYolkowski // talk 23:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC) Template:Webimage (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)[reply]
Delete — Waaaaay too vague, the tag seems to claim that anything is fair use. And if it were rewritten it would be redundant with {{fairuse}} or {{web-screenshot}}. Only used on two pages, so no big deal cleaning up. JYolkowski // talk 23:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splashtalk 22:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shanghai Metro meta-templates

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(includes Shanghai Metro/Line, Shanghai Metro/Line 1, Shanghai Metro/Line 1 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 2, Shanghai Metro/Line 2 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 3, Shanghai Metro/Line 3 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 4, Shanghai Metro/Line 4 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 5, Shanghai Metro/Line 5 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 6, Shanghai Metro/Line 6 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 7, Shanghai Metro/Line 7 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 8, Shanghai Metro/Line 8 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 9, Shanghai Metro/Line 9 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 10, Shanghai Metro/Line 10 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 11, Shanghai Metro/Line 11 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 12, Shanghai Metro/Line 12 colour, Shanghai Metro/Line 13, Shanghai Metro/Line 13 colour, and Shanghai Metro/Navigation)

Basically, these were designed as nested meta-templates intricately calling one another. The colour templates hold only a color specification, which was used together with the /Line template to produce colored links. Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Formatting issues "Color coding of information should not be done". To assist those readers that might have vision problems, I've replaced the whole scheme with simple bolded wikilinks. The /Navigation template was used to call rows of data in a footer template, but that step is not necessary as they can be called directly. -- Netoholic @ 23:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splashtalk 22:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ha-list (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete — Content is This page is a list, flagged as part of the Half-decent Articles review process. Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 19:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. Also note that it is far from being replaced; perhaps Phil Boswell is victim to the apparently-fixed WLH problems. -Splashtalk 22:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Web reference simple (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. -Splashtalk 23:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splashtalk 22:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Book reference no ISBN (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete. Not used. --Adrian Buehlmann 17:50, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: an argument could be made for converting it into a REDIRECT to {{Book reference}} to allow easier searching for books without ISBNs. I'm feeling wishywashy even though template redirects are evil. —Phil | Talk 08:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Who says template redirects are evil? dbenbenn | talk 17:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I think redirects do have drawbacks. They make maintenance harder. If we have a couple of aliases of the same thing it is harder to migrate template calls. Also TfD's of templates with aliases are harder to orphan. I might even be tempted to say that redirects for templates would be best turned off in MediaWiki, but I don't know if this might be viable. For articles, we need redirects. But not for templates. --Adrian Buehlmann 19:05, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There should be a way to search for templates that don't use a particular attribute, even if it's not pretty at the moment. ··gracefool | 04:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splashtalk 22:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Gaba analogs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete — Obsolete was replaced with Template:GABA analogs Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 17:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splashtalk 22:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was DELETE. I'm not going to move the other one, since that'll just result in a bunch of redirects. -Splashtalk 22:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wwdb (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete — Another template (Template:Wwdb_name) already does the same job, and the latter is categorized as well as being used. Jeekc 11:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC) Jeekc 11:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. This clearly needs to be worked out elsewhere. -Splashtalk 22:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recently made a change to Template:Wiktionary such that Wiktionarypar is now obsolete. The new Wiktionary template works in three modes, documented on that page. The 1st mode (no params) uses the PAGENAME and searches Wiktionary. The 2nd mode uses a parameter to define a direct link, and the 3rd mode adds a parameter for a display name for that direct link. -- Netoholic @ 08:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • This template is not obsolete. Indeed, quite the opposite. Over the past few months, I've been gradually replacing {{wiktionary}} with {{wiktionarypar}}, as per the consensus of several editors reached on Template talk:Wiktionary and the Village Pump back in July 2005. Please read that discussion for the background. Ironically, it is {{wiktionary}}, not {{wiktionarypar}}, that is obsolete. (The bells and whistles added to Template:Wiktionary in recent months are not reasons to use it.) Keep. Uncle G 08:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Template:Wiktionary is the original template, has a lot of historically important info on the talk (wiktionarypar has nothing), and a more natural name for the function. It should certainly stay, and now has the functions necessary to replace wiktionarypar. I can run a bot to replace the wiktionarypar calls, so that's nothing to be concerned about. -- Netoholic @ 08:57, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Talk pages can be renamed and retained. The comparative ages of the templates is irrelevant. The "natural name" for an interwiki tag that takes parameters is in fact one ending in "-par", since that is what the suffix means. The functions that you've added to {{wiktionary}} have made it worse, not better. You've been fiddling with a template that consensus was to stop using, haven't improved it one iota, and are now trying to have deleted the template that consensus was to switch to. Uncle G 09:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep overzealous deletion of demonstrably useful templates. Find summut better to do. — Dunc| 09:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. BlankVerse 13:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Template:wiktionary is pathetically inefficient. --Connel MacKenzie 10:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC) (Wiktionary sysop)[reply]
  • Delete, but modify Template:Wiktionary to not use {{PAGENAME}}, as that will only lead people to non-existant pages (in 95% of the cases). Jon Harald Søby 11:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It uses PAGENAME but doesn't link directly to "PAGENAME". It runs through Wiktionary's search, and works quite well. I've added a note to the Usage, advising people to check the link before committing. -- Netoholic @ 18:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • In other words: Modify {{wiktionary}} to be identical to {{wiktionarypar}} as it currently stands, do all of the work of undoing all of the work that has already been done over the past months to migrate to {{wiktionarypar}}, and get rid of {{wiktionarypar}}. That's the exceedingly long way around. The short way around is to complete the migration to {{wiktionarypar}} that has been progressing for the past few months, and delete {{wiktionary}} (if you are really determined to delete something). Uncle G 08:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Uncle G. —Locke Coletc 03:02, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Everyone seems to have missed the point that the template has been changed to do the same thing wiktionarypar does. Having that one template makes things much simpler, so as long as a bot is run to remove all occurences of wiktionarypar before it is deleted, then I don't see a problem with it. In fact, I've wondered why it hasn't been done. Delete after all occurences are replaced. Neonumbers 04:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, it is you who are missing the point. The template does the same thing that {{wiktionarypar}} does (but less efficiently and using complex template code to do it — where in comparison {{wiktionarypar}} has no such complexities), but was only changed to that after several editors had independently decided to move everything to {{wiktionarypar}}, and several months' work of moving to {{wiktionarypar}} had already been done. At the point that this discussion started, there were fewer than 500 uses of {{wiktionary}} left to convert, down from several thousand. The template that you should be looking to delete after moving everything to one template is {{wiktionary}}. Uncle G 08:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Just what would have been so difficult about converting {{wiktionary}} to use the proposed code in {{wiktionarypar}}? You're needlessly introducing complexity into the system with this name change. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 02:11, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clutter; not useful. — Dan | talk 04:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speeddy Keep The vote for deletion mite be a test.**My Cat inn @ (talk)** 20:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was speedy userfy with the user's permission. Pathoschild (admin / ') 03:34, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Benon Template:Benon (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete or Userfy — This template has a hardcoded username on it, as such is not useful for anyone else. xaosflux Talk/CVU 03:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note, a suitible generic template Template:Welcomeip exists already. xaosflux Talk/CVU 03:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • this template is now on my userspace, i much prefer mine as it has links to my talk page the npov and the test all in one allwoing me to do vandal ighting with a faster turnaroundBenon 03:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splashtalk 23:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:SunfazerLegit (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete — Doesn't seem like it will be used much (currently used on one page), can't be used by other users -- Colonel Cow 01:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think there exists {{doppelganger}} for things like this... 68.39.174.238 04:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note: That or {{SockpuppetProven}} with a note applied by the user, linking to an acknowledgement by the other user. 68.39.174.238 04:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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