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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus and please don't rearrange discussions! Martinp23 19:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latvia Squad Euro 2004 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:Greece Squad UEFA Euro 2004 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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  • Neutral Strong keep and Question. Sorry guys, you all seem to be familiar with all this. Care someone direct me to that debate because it strikes me as unorthodox. I tried Matthew's link above, but can't find it. Honestly I don't understand why templates with the names of the soccer players and coaches have to be deleted (not just for the Euro 2004 champions, but even for 3d category local teams). NikoSilver 14:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


  • KEEP respect--Eonwe 18:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As far as the greek team is concerned: I think it is important to be included in each player's article that the player in question was a member of the Euro winning squad. This can be done best with this template. Why? I believe that this information can be omitted in further edits of the articles about the players (and will be omitted), but with the template it won't. --CeeKay 23:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is the last competition of euro 2004 so it can be kept until the next euro. We are talking for european champions, so why not to let all european champions template and to keep the worst teams of previous world cups. I do not oppose to put template of other continents' champions. Don't forget that euro is the second most important competitionKRBN 04:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. My vote was based on the assumption that the above assertions were true, but it still makes sense. These aren't current squads, they're historical squads. Meaning that if they're kept and actually used, then a player who played on seven squads that have templates would have those seven templates on his article page, which is obviously not very helpful. We have an article which lays out these squads (in the case of Greece, we have 2004_European_Football_Championship_(team_squads)#Greece).  OzLawyer / talk  18:47, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Thanks Oz. Indeed historical teams would create a mess in every player's article. Participating in this historical team, however, IMHO is the most notable thing for all its members (ever). They won the Euro 2004 for Christ's sake! Sorry to have to change my vote to strong keep. If there is more to it, please let me know. I am genuinely interested. I'm also interested in voting for the relevant rules. NikoSilver 23:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete that. It didn't win anything, and I understand your consideration. I think those two apparently different cases should split. NikoSilver 01:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Would that be bad for some reason? NikoSilver 01:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For a list of champions, that is a good idea. The same info/format could be on the main page of the article for that particular tournament (specific year). I'm of the opinion that for each of the major cups, a roster page for all teams is encyclopedic, but, it should have more info than these templates. That is why pages like 2006 FIFA World Cup squads are good. On player articles, we can link to the appropriate team on each squads page, like a link to 2006 WC on Ronaldo's page, etc. Neier 10:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Another compromise, would be to limit the template to the current champion of each major competition (like, the current members of a club team). This is not as elegant as simply deleting the whole mess, and linking to full articles on the squads, though. Neier 00:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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