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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 12:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Developed Countries (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Yet another country navigation template. This one is completely redundant as the Developed Country criteria HDI and GDP are already listed (in exact numbers) in the country infobox template. Delete Arnoutf 18:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 12:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NCAA Tournament MOP Women (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

It's not used and has been replaced by normal garden-variety succession boxes. Delete American Patriot 1776 18:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 12:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NCAA Tournament MOP Men (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

It's not used and has been replaced by normal garden-variety succession boxes.

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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 12:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CABEI (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Yet another country navigation template, of which too many already exist (and most country articles carry too many navigational templates). This one promotes a concept for which we only have a stub article, and which does not seem important enough to classify countries by it. Delete. --Kusma (討論) 15:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination, country navigation templates are becoming a plague. Arnoutf 18:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, we must really put a stop to this proliferation.--Aldux 15:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the topic doesn't seem to be important enough for a new country template. TSO1D 14:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was no consensus - suggest that the points raised here be used to improve the template. Also, it should be noted that the template was not appropriately tagged with {{tfd}}. Martinp23 12:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:All That (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is being used to include a complete set of cross references relating to the TV series All That to every single article that has any relationship to All That, rather than just letting these articles contain a link to the article on All That that users can follow if they're interested in knowing more about that program. --Largo Plazo 12:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Kill the spin-offs and related rows (and its use on those pages), and I think this has a good argument for existing. --humblefool® 17:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I just deleted the useless related links, the rest (characters, episodes, musical guests) is perfectly appropriate for a template for a television show. -- Wikipedical 00:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • No you didn't. It's still on the Savage Steve Holland page, it's still on the Good Burger page, and so on. If someone is reading about Savage Steve Holland and wants to know more about All That, he can perfectly well click a link for All That. For all the things that relate to Savage Steve Holland, should his article also contain links to everything that's related to those things, even if those things have nothing whatsoever to do with Savage Steve Holland? And imagine all of Wikipedia being inundated with this repetition. The whole point of hyperlinking, and Wikipedia, is that people who want more information can follow links. Don't pollute the space by copying information about everything every single place it can possibly be related. --Largo Plazo
      • It sounds to me as if you are not against this template in particular but the idea of a template in general. I am not going to defend the idea of a template here, but I think your reasoning against this one in particular is faulty. The content is all relevant, is not "redundant or misguided" (per WP:DELETE). Aside from your grievances about including it on certain pages, what are your reasons for deleting the template? -- Wikipedical 00:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'm not against templates at all. There are useful templates all over Wikipedia. This template is the only one of its kind I've come across, so I'm addressing this template in particular in this forum. I'm opposed to it for three reasons, and I'd be just as opposed if the same thing were accomplished using no template at all. (1) I'm opposed to the gratuitous addition of links to an article that have nothing to do with that article, only because they're related to something that is related to that article. I think that should be obvious. (2) If a link in a template like this is relevant and is already in the text of the article, well, that's the whole point of this being an encyclopedia instead of an endless set of listings of cross references. The links is already there, it's where it belongs, and it doesn't need to be repeated in a block at the bottom. (3) If a link in a template like this is relevant but isn't already in the text, then it should be added to the text. If there isn't a fitting place where it could go in the text, then it isn't relevant after all, so it shouldn't be on the page at all. --Largo Plazo 14:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. If the template were being used on the "All That" page, I don't see the harm of it. I'd say trim it to be exclusively on the pages listed in the top row of the template, and keep it. -- Shiori 14:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • There isn't any "harm" but why do Wikipedia pages need to be crowded with boxes containing the same links that are already either in their own content or in the content of the article that the template is associated with? It's as though the person creating the template was deathly afraid that people wouldn't flip to the main article. Well, if they don't, it's because they aren't interested. Any attempt to make them interested by thrusting the collateral links in their faces is in effect promotional, advertising even, and doesn't belong. --Largo Plazo 00:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - this should not be a TfD discussion. Obviously an "All That" navigational box is warranted, end of story. (As a separate discussion, by all means discuss what it should contain, and where it should be used, and please god, what colours it should be - but do all that at the template talk page, not here.) Stevage 01:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It isn't obvious that navigation boxes are warranted at all. What happens when an article that relates to 50 other things winds up loaded down with 50 navigation boxes for those things? Can you explain why this is better than letting people follow the links in the bodies of the articles? --Largo Plazo 14:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • That does happen occasionally, but isn't a major problem - it's actually interesting to see the intersections of different groups of things. Paris is an example. It's better because, for a start, it's much quicker to "navigate" amongst these related things - if you want to read all the articles on "All That" characters, for example. And it stimulates the reader's interest, by making it really obvious to them that Wikipedia has other, related articles that are similar. Nav boxes are good. Argue against them somewhere else. Stevage 01:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Martinp23 12:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox College Preparatory School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Redundant with all the other school infoboxes, even if was working. -- zzuuzz (talk) 10:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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