Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2009/August
August 31
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The result of the debate was rename
Rename - to Category:Dramatist and playwright stubs to match parent Category:Dramatists and playwrights. Otto4711 (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename per nom. Makes sense. Grutness...wha? 00:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 27
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The result of the debate was speedied, per similar change at WP:CFD
Rename in line with other New Zealand region categories, dependent on result of ongoing discussion at CFD. Grutness...wha? 01:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- propse following name of parent after outcome of CFD (don't really want this changing if some good reason not to change parent comes up at CFD) Waacstats (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- update - the relevant permcat has been renamed to Category:Bay of Plenty Region. Grutness...wha? 01:00, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In htat case speedy rename. Waacstats (talk) 12:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 25
[edit]{{Chinese-food-stub}}
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved over from WSS/D - used on 3 articles better covered by {{China-cuisine-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete, failing that redirect. Name is clearly non-standard, but not as badly so as many of the others listed below. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Kwaito-album-stub}}
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The result of the debate was upmerged to Cat:Album stubs - hopefully someone can find a more appropriate category?
Moved from WSS/D - used on 16 articles and no category covered by by date subcats of Category:Hip hop album stubs. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - no equivalent permcat as far as I can tell, and already covered elsewhere. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Upmerge to an appropriate stub cat - this appears to be a stub template for Category:Kwaito albums. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Kwaito is a music category of its own, has not much to do with HipHop. Coverage on WP is limited due to Kwaito's distribution among the disadvantaged population in Southern Africa. Editors covering this topic are mostly new to WP and do not know the structure here. --Pgallert (talk) 13:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Catholic-school-stub}}
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - no stub cat, used on 2 articles and schools stubs are generally split by location. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, though it's worth pointing out that we do have {{Seminary-stub}}. Despite that, splitting by type of school at a secondary level is probably not the best way to go. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I always thought Seminaries were more like Universities than schools. Either way the fewer exceptions to the norm the better. Waacstats (talk) 21:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, that's pretty much my point. We've split out the tertiary facilities by type (including one approximately analogous), which is fine, but splitting out the secondary schools is a bit much. Grutness...wha? 01:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I always thought Seminaries were more like Universities than schools. Either way the fewer exceptions to the norm the better. Waacstats (talk) 21:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{wales-music-stub}}
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 1 use, no category not a split we have done elsewhere. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, though the creation of a {{wales-band-stub}} or a {{choir-stub}} might be useful. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was upmerge
Moved from WSS/D - 2 uses, no category, articles can be covered by other stub tags. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- upmerge to Category:Paranormal stubs, which currently houses a dozen or so UFO articles (in a secret aircraft hanger in New Mexico) Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Follow-up - this was proposed as part of a deletion discussion a couple of years back. I've populated it (21 stubs now) and upmerged it to Category:Paranormal stubs. Grutness...wha? 00:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 0 uses, no category we don't have any other templates for parts of two countries. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 1 use, no category, already covered by {{NorthDakota-road-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and per ample precedent. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{India-china-stub}}
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 0 uses, no category, a bio cat in heavy disguise. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Glad you told me that it was a bio type - it's hardly clearly named... Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - plenty of uses but, already covered by the correctly named {{USVirginIslands-road-stub}}. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 0 uses, no category, incorrectly formed. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, though a proposal for a properly formulated stub type of this kind may be worth considering (US-state-gov-stub or similar). Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{NarutoEpisodeStub}}
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The result of the debate was delete
Moved from WSS/D - 0 uses, upmerged but incorrectly formed. Waacstats (talk) 21:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 24
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The result of the debate was renamed in accordance with change of permcat at WP:CFD, and with support of string
Rename pending outcome of related CFR nomination, per more correct naming and discussions at WP:WPNZ. Grutness...wha? 23:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- String support assuming the rename nomination for Category:Waikato passes. Should be part of that nomination, in my opinion. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename inline with outcome of CFD i.e change to whatever CFD decides to use. Waacstats (talk) 08:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note - the relevant CFD has been closed as rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Diving-bio-stub}}
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The result of the debate was kept. –xenotalk 03:40, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not used and already mark as deprecated. -- WOSlinker (talk) 22:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - deprecated stub types are frequently kept to stop "redlink syndrome" from people who add stubs without checking what their edits have actually done. This one is used fairly regularly and cleared manually every time (as are similar types like {{Football-stub}} and {{China-geo-stub}}). Grutness...wha? 22:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - for reasons stated above. Borgarde (talk) 06:19, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 23
[edit]{{Regent Park-stub}}
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The result of the debate was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]
This is a relatively small neighborhood in Toronto. Few uses, needs upmerged its uses should be replaced by an appropriate stub template.. –xenotalk 02:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete if we need a stub template it would be {{RegentPark-stub}} without the space but I'm not really seeing the need. Waacstats (talk) 07:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per above, misnamed and pretty much useless - are we really going to have 60 stubs on one London park? Grutness...wha? 22:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It is actually for the Toronto neighborhood, but that is just as unlikely to accumulate 60 stubs. –xenotalk
- Heh. Fooled. Add "ambiguous" to its list of sins... (now that you mention it, the London park is "Regent's Park", anyway). Grutness...wha? 00:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It is actually for the Toronto neighborhood, but that is just as unlikely to accumulate 60 stubs. –xenotalk
- I've replaced its uses. Suggest deleting. –xenotalk 17:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep and upmerge to Cat:Anatomy stubs. Grutness...wha? 23:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 use. No category. –xenotalk 00:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I seem to recall this one being proposed and sounds like it could be useful, I'd suggest upmerging to Category:Anatomy stubs and I'll have a look at trying to populate it. Waacstats (talk) 07:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]
1 use. Categorizes into a non-stub parent category. –xenotalk 22:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete' not really needed. Waacstats (talk) 08:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless some use can be found for it. Grutness...wha? 23:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{CSI-tv-stub}}
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The result of the debate was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC) [reply]
Unused. Categorizes into a parent. Renamed at SFD in 2007. –xenotalk 19:46, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as unused. Waacstats (talk) 08:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless some use can be found for it. Grutness...wha? 23:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Sims stubs / {{Sims-stub}}
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The result of the debate was deleted. –xenotalk 15:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Only 1 stub in category. Parent category has only 32 articles and no subcats (except this). I say these should be Deleted. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete we very rarely have cats for series. Waacstats (talk) 08:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Any rerason why this was speedily deleted rather than waiting for the full nomination period? No personal objections (I'd have said delete), but it's a little irregular. Grutness...wha? 22:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete as re-creation of deleted stub type. Grutness...wha? 23:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Empty stub category, appears to be unproposed. Sppears to have been empty at least as far back as 11 October 2008. Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as empty/unused. Waacstats (talk) 08:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 22:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete. recreation of deleted stub type. Grutness...wha? 23:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Withdrawn by nominator.
Only one page currently in category, scan only finds 4 candidates. Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - This is because someone broke the template: [1].
Fixed There are about 60 transclusions. –xenotalk 20:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 20
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The result of the debate was deleted. –xenotalk 17:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No articles categorized here, scan shows that there aren't many articles for this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:15, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Template is miscapitalised, and the subject is already thoroughly covered by other stub types. Grutness...wha? 23:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete as unused. Waacstats (talk) 08:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Empty stub categories
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The result of the debate was individual cases dealt with as listed below
- Category:Swaminarayan Stubs (see Template:Swaminarayan-stub)
N deleted
- Category:Napoleonic Wars (1792-1815) stubs (category redirect to Category:Great French War stubs)
N deleted as implausible category redirect (note that, due to the nature of stub categories being populated by specific templates, all category redirects are unlikelyb for stub categories) Grutness...wha?
- Category:Croatia building and structure stubs
N deleted as duplicate of existing category Grutness...wha?
- Category:Gardening stubs (category redirect to Category:Horticulture and gardening)
N deleted as implausible category redirect Grutness...wha? 09:40, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:A Series of Unfortunate Events stubs (category redirect to Category:Lemony Snicket stubs)
N deleted as implausible category redirect Grutness...wha? 10:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Percy Jackson stubs/{{Percy-jackson-stub}}
N speedily deleted. –xenotalk 14:59, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:African academic biography stubs/{{Africa-academic-bio-stub}}(template is trancsluded in 1 page, which appears to be upmerged)
N category deleted
Y template doubly upmerged Grutness...wha? 10:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I propose deleting these empty categories and templates. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Bit of a trainwreck developing here... These are different cases and need to be treated separately:
- Swaminarayan Stubs - unproposed, miscapitalised, no template, already covered by Hindu-stub. Delete
- Percy Jackson stubs - unproposed, badly-named template, misnamed category (equivalent permcat is at Category:Percy Jackson and the Olympians), and too narrow a subject (permcat has only 18 articles... chances are that fewer than 60 of them are stubs). Delete
- Category redirects should never exist for stub categories (there's no need for them since stub categories are always populated by templates). However, their existence is often a warning of deeper problems. In two of these cases, a stub category has been renamed without proposal, so deletion isn't the primary option here; discussion on which is the correct name is. Relist for discussion. The third (the Napoleonic one) was renamed after discusssion at WPSS and can be speedily deleted.
- Croatia B&S stubs
can possibly be populated. There are currently some 48 stubs marked with croatia-struct-stub - finding another twelve seems possible. Either populate or reupmerge (yeah, I know, upmerge sounds odd for an empty category, but the equivalent template exists and is in use)delete per Waacstats' comments. Good catch WS. - African academic biography stubs is unproposed, but not too silly an idea, given that the main way of splitting academics is by nationality. As such, this could be a useful holding category for academics from the various african countries which have not yet got separate categories (all of them!). However, the usual principle with current stub-sorting is to have templates for individual countries, not continents, so this may be a case of fill the category using appropriate nation-specific templates, delete the continent-wide template.
- Grutness...wha? 23:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC) (amended 22:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]
- Swaminarayan Stubs - delete we don't split Hindism by sects
- Napolenic wars (1792-1815) stubs - I remember sme discussion on this and trust G's memory/looking up so speedy delete
- Croaita building and structure stubs - delete as misnamed Category:Croatian building and structure stubs already has 80+ articles
- Gardening stubs - redirecting to a perm cat therefore delete and we already have horticulture stubs
- A Series of Unfortunate Events stubs - I'd say delete and nominate the Lemont Snicket cat for deletion as well.
- Percy Jackson stubs -delete as small and unlikely to grow
- African academic biography stubs - I'll look at populating this week if time arises before any deletion.
- Hope that covers them all. Waacstats (talk) 08:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- FYI the inappropriately capitalized Swaminarayan was populated by Template:Swaminarayan-stub. Not empty, and I've "fixed" it for now, rather than create the proper-capitalized category if its just going to be deleted. –xenotalk 15:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 19
[edit]{{Balearics-geo-stub}}
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The result of the debate was keep
Unused. Redundant to {{Balearics-stub}}? PC78 (talk) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong (possibly speedy) keep. It's definitely not redundant to Balearics-stub - everywhere which has a standard stub also has a geo-stub. Also, when last checked, this had over 40 articles. Someone appears to have removed it from all the articles which were using it. I've started to repopulate it. Grutness...wha? 00:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- {{Balearics-geo-stub}} is back on the 51 geographical stubs it should have been on, leaving the plain {{Balearics-stub}} on the remaining 12 articles in the category. Grutness...wha? 01:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- A -geo-stub is different to -stub if we delete this geo stub the articles would require a balearics-stub and a spain-geo-stub, much simpler to have one template. so Keep. Waacstats (talk) 08:08, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - even if unused, it's a template for a likely intersection of 2 parent stub categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Given that we don't split people by subnational entity, and that this is a stub category without a template and the fact that it is likely to cause disruption I propose this be deleted. Waacstats (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 00:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- merge to Category:Bosniaks and rename Category:Bosniaks to Category:Bosniak people per Category:People by ethnicity PRODUCER (talk) 23:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That won't work - this is a stubcat - you can't merge them with permcats. As for the renaming of the permcat, that's a matter for WP:CFD, not here. Grutness...wha? 00:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete
Used on only 1 article, we don't split by subnational entity and we have other template that can cover this person therefore I propose this be deleted. Waacstats (talk) 08:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Grutness...wha? 00:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 14
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The result of the debate was Keep template, upmerge category for now.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Our first 2010 category and template? may be worth keeping the template as we are only 4/5months away but category is alittle short of 60. Waacstats (talk) 10:04, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Unsurprisingly. Upmerge per nom. Grutness...wha? 23:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Keep template, upmerge category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Has been listed on Discoveries for almost 2 years and has only 10 articels. Waacstats (talk) 10:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Upmerge unless it can be brought up to threshold. template seems useful, just not heavily used. Grutness...wha? 23:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 11
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The result of the debate was Rename.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Listing for User:Otto4711 (see Wikipedia talk: Stub types for deletion). Grutness...wha? 22:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - standard naming for stub categories is "United States foo stubs". Grutness...wha? 22:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename - as nominator, per standard naming convention. Thanks for completing the listing. Otto4711 (talk) 14:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support rename per nominator Waacstats (talk) 09:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was Delete
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:14, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be totally unused, as well as being functionally useless. No category, no link to WP:STUB, non-standard name, and no coherent indication what it's really for. Deletion would put it out of its misery. Grutness...wha? 23:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete as unused tempalte? otherwise delete. Waacstats (talk) 09:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was projectfy - moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/Sci-journal-stub transclusions snapshot, link updated. –xenotalk 16:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Really don't see a point in this - it's a list of articles which used to use a temp[late and now have been subcategorised ussing more well defined stub types or destubbed. Hasn't been updated for nearly two years and doesn't link anywhere except an archive of a Wikiproject talk page. Delete. Grutness...wha? 23:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete though is this really a stub template? does it need to go to TFD? Waacstats (talk) 09:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- We've dealt with suibpages of stub templates here in the past, but if you feel happier about it going to TFD (or even MFD), then feel free to move the nom there). Grutness...wha? 23:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not particulerly fussed where it goes to get deleted I think the outcome would be the same, happy to leave it here. Waacstats (talk) 12:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- We've dealt with suibpages of stub templates here in the past, but if you feel happier about it going to TFD (or even MFD), then feel free to move the nom there). Grutness...wha? 23:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I have asked the creator of this template to comment here. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the notification. I created this page at the same time as I was creating Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/Pages. The link Grutness refers to above to "an archive of a WikiProject talk page" gives more details (Grutness, did you follow the link and try and find that discussion?). See here. Essentially, there were three lists, with some items only on one or two of the lists. One of them was in the WikiProject space, the other two were subpages of the templates. The one that was missed here was Template:Infobox Journal/transclusions snapshot (that was missed because it wasn't a subpage of a stub template?). The aim was to end up with a page for members of the project to watchlist. I suspect that the "Pages" one is the main one, but there might still be some overlap. I think the simplest way to handle this (apart from leaving the pages alone) is to move the "snapshot" lists to a subpage of the WikiProject list. This has the advantage that the blue links in old discussions won't turn red, leaving people reading those old discussions wondering what was being talked about (unless those redirects would also get deleted as "cross-namespace redirects"?). Anyway, I'll ask for advice at the WikiProject on how this could be handled. What I'm thinking is that if this had been anywhere else (userspace subpage, WikiProject subpage, template subpage) it would have been left alone. But because it was a subpage of a stub template, it (eventually) got noticed as old and out-of-date and got nominated for deletion. I suppose this means that the stub template "namespace" is very clean, which in some ways is a good thing, but it would have been nice to have been notified earlier. Thanks again, Martin, for the notification. Carcharoth (talk) 14:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry for the lack of notification - I had assumed (incorrectly) that a "snapshot" which hadn't been edited for almost two years had simply been abandoned and forgotten about. Yes, the "stubspace" is as clean as possible - it would be an easy area to get very messy, so we try to "sweep" it regularly. I agree that moving the lists to a WikiProject subpage is probably a good solution if the pages are still in use - the redirects would get deleted, but it would be easy to repoint any links to the new page locations - it's not as if there are a lot of links to move. Grutness...wha? 03:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the notification. I created this page at the same time as I was creating Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/Pages. The link Grutness refers to above to "an archive of a WikiProject talk page" gives more details (Grutness, did you follow the link and try and find that discussion?). See here. Essentially, there were three lists, with some items only on one or two of the lists. One of them was in the WikiProject space, the other two were subpages of the templates. The one that was missed here was Template:Infobox Journal/transclusions snapshot (that was missed because it wasn't a subpage of a stub template?). The aim was to end up with a page for members of the project to watchlist. I suspect that the "Pages" one is the main one, but there might still be some overlap. I think the simplest way to handle this (apart from leaving the pages alone) is to move the "snapshot" lists to a subpage of the WikiProject list. This has the advantage that the blue links in old discussions won't turn red, leaving people reading those old discussions wondering what was being talked about (unless those redirects would also get deleted as "cross-namespace redirects"?). Anyway, I'll ask for advice at the WikiProject on how this could be handled. What I'm thinking is that if this had been anywhere else (userspace subpage, WikiProject subpage, template subpage) it would have been left alone. But because it was a subpage of a stub template, it (eventually) got noticed as old and out-of-date and got nominated for deletion. I suppose this means that the stub template "namespace" is very clean, which in some ways is a good thing, but it would have been nice to have been notified earlier. Thanks again, Martin, for the notification. Carcharoth (talk) 14:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 6
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The result of the debate was rename
Pending outcome of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_August_5#Category:Northland.2C_New_Zealand. The plan is that if this is successfully changed, over the next few weeks all of New Zealand's regional categories will be renamed in the same way. Grutness...wha? 00:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, assuming the related CfD proposal goes forward; for same reasons given there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:48, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- late Support Waacstats (talk) 09:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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{{Pakistan-food-stub}} --> {{Pakistan-cuisine-stub}} (redirect)
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The result of the debate was 'deleted'. Start from scratch. –xenotalk 01:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Change to the proper format for cuisine stubs, 'cuisine' rather than 'food' - AKeen (talk) 05:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- this needs major work it looks more like a category than a template, support renaming and clean up. Waacstats (talk) 09:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Template seems to have no transclusions. Recommend delete. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 5
[edit]Category:China road stubs, {{china-road-stub}} (redirect)
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The result of the debate was rename Category:China road stubs, turn {{china-road-stub}} into a "don't use". -Mairi (talk) 13:47, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The stub template makes it clear that this is for roads in the People's Republic, and is named accordingly ({{PRChina-road-stub}}, with redirect at {{PRC-road-stub}}. As such, the category should be renamed accordingly, as Category:People's Republic of China road stubs. The template, which is pretty ambiguous, should either be deleted or turned into a "don't use" type (like {{China-geo-stub}}. Grutness...wha? 03:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support change, probably best to follow the -geo- stubs on this otherwise some 'helpful' editor will recreate it for us. Waacstats (talk) 09:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 3
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The result of the debate was rename. -Mairi (talk) 13:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed while commenting on a new discovery at WP:WSS/D that the existing category Category:United States mall stubs doesn't tally with the name of the parent (Category:Shopping malls in the United States). As such, the stub cat should renamed to have the word "shopping" added. Grutness...wha? 23:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- just changed my proposal for Canada so better support this. Waacstats (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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August 2
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The result of the debate was Category upmerged.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- There is no need for this category. It should be merged with its parent, Category:Texas university stubs, as were related categories for {{TAMU-stub}} and {{TexasTech-stub}}, and deleted. There are presently 72 pages in the University of Texas at Austin stubs category. →Wordbuilder (talk) 17:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak support - though 72 is sufficient for a category. Didn't this one come up here recently? Grutness...wha? 00:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of the 72 articles are bios. This category was mentioned in the discussion regarding the deletion of the Texas Tech and Texas A&M stubs. It was decided to keep both of those stubs but put the articles into the category Texas university stubs. →Wordbuilder (talk) 14:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Most bio-stubs related to a specific university should more sensibly have a US-academic-stub or a stub connected to their field of study - academics move from university to university too often to get a specific university stub. Grutness...wha? 01:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, upmerge tempalte and remove bio-stubs (academics and sportsmen?) Waacstats (talk) 09:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Soil stub candidates
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The result of the debate was delete. -Mairi (talk) 13:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose renaming Category:Soil stub candidates to Category:Soil stubs
- Nominator's rationale: consistency -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:29, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Close and relist at SFD IIRC, this should be done at WP:SFD 76.66.192.64 (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete My purpose in establishing this category was to see if the project had sufficient articles to justify this stub. It clearly does not. This category should be emptied and then guidelines at WP:SFD followed. Paleorthid (talk) 04:13, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Admin note: Moved from 2009 JUL 25 CfD for closing here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I support deletion of current name - but don't think a new Category:Soil stubs is necessary. With only five stubs listed, and a threshold for stub categories (even if there were a WikiProject Soil science or similar) of 30 - 60 if there's no WikiProject, a separate category seem unnecessary. What's more, there's no stub template connected with it, so it shouldn't exist. Paleorthid, if you wanted to see whether there were enough stubs for a category, you should have proposed one at WP:WSS/P, and we'd have used stub-finding tools to see how many suitable stubs existed. Grutness...wha? 23:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. This discussion may need to be informed by the fact that {{soil-stub}} exists, has a history, and redirects to {{soil-sci-stub}}. Prior discussions about {{soil-stub}}: > Initial discussion at Soil WikiProject June 2006 > 1st Proposal June 2006: Approved after soil-stub transitioned to soil-sci-stub. > 2nd Proposal September 2007: The result of the debate was redirect to soil-sci-stub. (Grutness, you may recall this?) In December 2007 I created this category in an effort to see if there was any continuing interest, particularly on the part of drillerguy. It was a very informal effort, perhaps more appropriate for either drillerguy or paleorthid user space. To be clear, I never considered this a formal stub category. Regardless, I should have emptied the category in mid-2008 when it became obvious that there was no user interest. --Paleorthid (talk) 20:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought I remembered something to do with soil stubs before, but couldn't remember the details. FWIW, a better idea would have been to simply list article names on a user subpage (e.g., User:Paleorthid/Soil stubs), rather than creating a category. That way it doesn't affect category space and allows you to add and remove article names at will. Grutness...wha? 01:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree. This discussion may need to be informed by the fact that {{soil-stub}} exists, has a history, and redirects to {{soil-sci-stub}}. Prior discussions about {{soil-stub}}: > Initial discussion at Soil WikiProject June 2006 > 1st Proposal June 2006: Approved after soil-stub transitioned to soil-sci-stub. > 2nd Proposal September 2007: The result of the debate was redirect to soil-sci-stub. (Grutness, you may recall this?) In December 2007 I created this category in an effort to see if there was any continuing interest, particularly on the part of drillerguy. It was a very informal effort, perhaps more appropriate for either drillerguy or paleorthid user space. To be clear, I never considered this a formal stub category. Regardless, I should have emptied the category in mid-2008 when it became obvious that there was no user interest. --Paleorthid (talk) 20:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support deletion based on the fact that we already have Category:Soil science stubs
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August 1
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The result of the debate was rename. -Mairi (talk) 13:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This category has existed unknown to WPSS for two whole years (it wasn't parented by any stub category, and stubs relating to roads in Japan have been categorised in Category:Asia road stubs by WPSS. Unfortunbately, its naming goes against the naming of all other national road stubs categories, which use the noun form (because the non-stub parent is "Foo of Bar", not "Barrian Foo"). As such, this one should be brought in line with Category:India road stubs, Category:Germany road stubs +c as Category:Japan road stubs. Grutness...wha? 01:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- (Note: Accidentally de-listed on August 3 - relisted on August 5. Please leave for a couple of extra days Grutness...wha?)
- support change to bring into line with other categories. Waacstats (talk) 09:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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