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April 22

God and Logic

Last time, when I asked about whether the omnipotence of God means that he can do anything logically impossible as well as anything physically impossible, some people responded by saying that God created logic.

I don’t understand! What do you mean by that? Logic has always existed before in the past and always will exist in the future! Logic exists eternally. LOGIC ALWAYS WAS, IS, AND WILL BE! One plus one has always equalled two in the past and always will equal two in the future. The three angles of a triangle have always equalled 180° in the past and always will equal 180° in the future.

Logic is eternal, absolute, immutable, and infinitely old. Logic has no beginning and no end. Logic has no reason and no cause for its existence. Because logic doesn’t have a beginning, it doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t need to have a cause, and it can’t have a cause for its existence. If something doesn’t have a beginning, it doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t need to have a cause, and it can’t have a cause for its existence. It is impossible for logic to have a beginning or a cause. If logic was created that means that it must have a beginning. If logic had a beginning, that means that there was a time when logic did not exist. It is impossible for logic to not exist.

If logic did not exist before God created it, then does that mean that one plus one did not equal two and the three angles of a triangle did not equal 180° when logic did not exist? If so, then what did they equal?

If God created logic, then when did God create logic? On which day of the six days of creation did God create logic?

Where in the Bible did it say that God created logic, or that logic was created by God?

The late, great Douglas Adams touched on this in a sort of coda to one of his books, I can't remember which one. He could never trust anyone so sure of his facts. A child's sense of wonder is required for faith and science alike. --Milkbreath (talk) 01:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Logic has always existed before in the past and always will exist in the future! Logic exists eternally. LOGIC ALWAYS WAS, IS, AND WILL BE!"

What makes you say that? What reason do you have for thinking it? 79.66.99.37 (talk) 01:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's entirely possible to postulate a completelynon-euclidian universe. If a god exists, I don't know of any reason to presume that he doesn't inhabit such a space. It's a bit harder to imagine and describe a universe where causality and logic work differently, but I'll bet it's possible.APL (talk) 02:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to answer/ avoid your questions, there's an ancient philosophical tradition, reaching from the ancient Greeks, through Christianity ("in the beginning was the word...") down to Hegel and some of his followers that identifies Logic and God. (For Hegel, logic was God the father, the philosophy of nature was Christ crucified and the philosophy of mind/spirit (Geist) was the Holy Spirit.) One can compare the Tao in Chinese philosophy. See our article on Logos for some help.John Z (talk) 03:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And remember, the angles of a triangle don't always make 180 degrees. FreeMorpheme (talk) 07:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, what you have to say is illogicalhotclaws 08:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of argument, I'm going to assume that there is a god. As far as when logic began and so forth, one could argue that logic was created at the same time as this god was creating the universe. He was setting up his universe and by doing that, setting up logic as well. Now, if the universe was ever-changing due to this god changing the universe on a whim, then the logic of the universe would have to change with it. Dismas|^(talk) 09:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does the Bible say God can do the logically impossible? Yes or no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bowei Huang (talk • contribs) 10:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The world is less logical than you might think. Physics provides wonderful examples of this. Triangles can easily be more than 180º if they are inscribed in a curved geometry rather than a flat one; causality has limited meaning in the quantum realm, where things can and do happen without antecedent; light can be both a wave and a particle at the same time, even though these things are mutually exclusive terms. I'm not sure it is, err, logical to think something as apparently outside of space and time as the concept of God should be any more bound to logic than an electron. The essential philosophical core of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics is that ways of thinking that are perfectly valid at "human" scales are not valid at quantum scales—where would you put the "God" scale in this equivalent, that being that supposedly existed before space and time itself? (I don't believe in God myself, I might add, but I find these sorts of arguments against His existence to be flip and not well thought out. I think there are better and more straightforward reasons to suspect that the specific human ideas about Gods are, well, human in origin.) --Captain Ref Desk (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logic is a human activity. It is one of the ways we interpret the world/universe/cosmos. One cannot extrapolate human activity to divinity. Even logic cannot contain all of logic. I refer you to Godel's incompleteness theorems. SaundersW (talk) 17:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe we're trapped inside logic and can't bend the rules in the same way he can, can't see how everything works like he can, in the same way that we can't understand extra dimensions, and things made with less dimensions wouldn't be able to understand us.HS7 (talk) 20:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to take the Cartesian view, then God is essentially able to transcend logic. In essence, everything, including logic, is created by God. Logic would be different had God chosen for it to be, and while we cannot imagine 2+2=5 actually happening (in a normal number system), God could make it so. God can square the circle. Descartes took the view that God could do literally anything,including create a stone so heavy that he could not lift it, and then later lift it. This seems impossible and contradictory, but logic is mercy to the whims of God in the same way all other things are in the Cartesian world view. Michael Clarke, Esq. (talk) 17:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<see below as well>I can't say if the desk would lose or benefit by these questions not happening, but see the poster's talk pages here: User talk:60.242.166.182, User talk:Bowei Huang and here[1]. Responders are giving this user alot of attention. Julia Rossi (talk) 00:26, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sick animals in vietnam

Why were there so many sick animals in vietnam? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.100.242 (talk) 00:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When? Are you referring to some notable time period? Dismas|^(talk) 02:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agent Orange ? hotclaws 08:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slam Poetry Topic

Hello, my school is doing a slam poetry competition. I need to choose a topic for it. It should be a social/political/economic/others issue that I can somewhat personally relate to. I am a middle-class, caucasian male teenager. So ghetto hood, drugs, prostitution and social injustice is out of the question for me. Can someone suggest to me some topics plz? Applefungus (talk) 01:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So there are no drugs at your school? You might want to alert the newspapers about this extraordinary place! Seriously, there are still many issues that are relevant to you... Teenage alcohol use, drunk driving, pressures of getting into the right college, pressures about whether you should join the military, pressures of following the right career, sex/virginity, AIDS, (some may disagree with this one) the bias against white males because they aren't protected by anti-discrimination laws due to not being female or a minority, global warming, creationism in the classroom, etc. In short, you have plenty of social/political/economic issues that surround you everyday. Also, tomorrow is Earth Day, so that's relevant in a few ways. Dismas|^(talk) 02:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White, middle class angst and guilt? I'm not being snarky either.hotclaws 08:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1984 BMW 320i 2door coupe 6 cyclinder diagnostics

My 1984 BMW 320i 2dr coupe has a problem Can you help me please?

The car starts (sumtimes) but when the throtle is open it will only rev up to 3000 rpm and it will surge between 2000 and 3000 rpm or die on me (unable to drive like this) Has any one else had this happen? If so What and how can i fix it? How can we reset the computer? Cheeres. Madakker (talk) 07:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madakker (talk • contribs) 07:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realise cars had computer chips in 1984. It might be a good idea to consult with a professional mechanic though, no matter what wikipedians say. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, cars definitely had engine management computers by then, especially if they had electronic fuel injection as most high-end German cars did by then. But the computer interfaces weren't very standardized, unlike modern OBD-II. See our On-board diagnostics article.

Meanwhile, Madakker should consider a clogged fuel filter (quite likely if it hasn't been changed in a while) or a bad electric fuel pump. Remember that the car may have two electric fuel pumps, one obvious external pump and a smaller pump located at the fuel pick-up point in the gas tank. If you work on any of these components, be sure to work safely! If you don't know what you're doing, leave the work to your mechanic lest you create a carbeque, now or later!

Atlant (talk) 12:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Demographic Statistics

What were the life expectancy, death rate, infant mortality rate, and under-5 mortality rate of the world in the 1650s and 1660s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.166.182 (talk) 10:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously in most parts of the world non-one was collecting these types of statistics in the 17th century. Our life expectancy article has some estimates of life expectancy in various periods in history. Other than that, you may be able to find some research on European demographics in that period - I imagine the outbreaks of plague in Spain and England will have had a significant impact on mortality rates. Gandalf61 (talk) 11:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at Peter Laslett's The World We have Lost (Scribners, 1965). Although its coverage is limited to England, because it is based on contemporary records (primarily unbroken series of Parish Registers) his conclusions are worth reading. -- llywrch (talk) 22:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claims of Evidence for Other Religions as the One True Religion

I’ve heard Christians claim that there are proofs and evidences for Christianity to be the “one true religion”. Those evidences include evidences that what the Bible says is true and evidences that Jesus Christ is God and the son of God.

But what about other religions? Do they also have, or claim to have, proof or evidences for their religion to be the one true religion? If so, then what are they?

Don’t tell me if those proofs and evidences of other religions are true or false, right or wrong, really proofs or evidences of them or not. Just tell me if they have or claim to have so. Bowei Huang (talk) 01:10, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly every religion believes that it is the "one true religion". That's why Pascal's Wager is like a bad joke; sure, you believed in a religion. But you chose the wrong one to believe in and now Flying Spaghetti Monster has you by the meatballs!

Atlant (talk) 12:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but the question is whether other religions claim to have evidence for this status. Pastafarianism cites the link between pirate numbers and global warming, for example. Algebraist 12:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is a silly question. Buddhism for example, as far as I can recall, does not claim to be the "one true" religion and I've certainly heard people claim that you can be both a Buddhist and a practising member of another religion.

It's also easy to imagine a religion that says "we have no evidence at all for this - you just have to believe!". Christianity does not do this, contrary to popular opinion. Or at least not all of Christianity. There is certainly some evidence that Jesus existed, for example, and many Christians believe not through some mystical experience but because they consider the evidence sufficient.

I would imagine that Islam would make much the same claim as Christianity. There is little doubt that Mohammed existed and that he wrote and said the things that are claimed. You can believe he was inspired by God or you can believe something else. And if you believe he was inspired by God then it follows that much of what other religions say is wrong. Same with Jesus. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is archaeological evidence that some events in the legend of Utnapishtim ocurred. Also read the complete works of Sechuanathon (which I probably spellt wrong, he was a theologian 3400 years ago, if that helps you find him) and compare them to archaeological studies. Also many older religeons don't clam to be the one true religeon, and many of those that do are based to some degree on the same few religeous writings, with the same myths/history.HS7 (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that it's a fundamental characteristic of any monotheistic religion to believe it is the one true religion. By definition, if there is only one God and you worship him/her/it, then everyone else must be wrong. Polytheistic religions, on the other hand, already believe in multiple gods, so adding a few more isn't really a big deal. The largest surviving polytheistic religion is the Hindu religion.

There do, interestingly enough, appear to be a few places in the Bible which seem to support polytheism, such as the Commandment: "Thou shall put no other gods before me". This seems to acknowledge that there are other gods, and they can also be worshipped, but that worship must be secondary to the main God. Then there was Moses turning his staff into a big snake which ate the smaller snakes produced from the staffs of the Egyptian priest, thus showing the Christian God was more powerful than the Egyptian gods. StuRat (talk) 01:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Christians who claim that Christianity is the one true faith tend to do so on the basis of Jesus' statement "I am the way, the truth and the life: nobody comes to the father but through me". At first glance that looks like an exclusive claim, but it can equally be read as "If you find somebody else who has found the father in some other way, do not reject them as a heathen, because it was I who brought them". SaundersW (talk) 08:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Christians stole most of their religious days from Paganism. Such as Zombie Jesus Day and Christmas. Christianity cannot be the one and only true religion. Cause they stole a lot of holidays from the pagans.Cardinal Raven (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven[reply]

help me locate her

she is called clarice and she is from rwanda studing business administration in manchester .She lives formally in belgium with her sisters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.82.68.213 (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try searching her name on Facebook? --124.254.77.148 (talk) 14:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I admire those who are able to live formally. Edison (talk) 06:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We're not supposed to make fun of questioners' errors in English (here, for "she formerly lived in Belgium"). --Anon, 21:36 UTC, April 23, 2008.

Actually, I thought he meant that her primary or official place of residence is in Belgium although she goes to school in England. Anyway, I won't help find her. My guess is that she could get in touch if she wanted to. --Milkbreath (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Holey Cons Batman!

I bought a really cool pair of Chuck Taylor All-Star hightops, the ones with the double tongue...truly awesome, however being Cons the right shoe quickly developed a hole in it. The hole is terribly annoying because if it's raining or if I step into a puddle my sock gets wet and stays wet for the rest of the day. Is it possible to repair a rubber soled shoe such as a Converse All-Star? I've tried gaffer tape, but it soon falls off, and I don't want to bin them because they're real nice and cost me £40 Jimmy tha fish (talk) 11:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps take it to a shoe repair place, they might be able to fix it. As a side note, I once had a pair that I wore nearly everyday for two years, those were the days :) SunshineStateOfMind (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DIY glue on some canvas and paint/texta it. If it wore too fast you could tell the shop or the comany? Julia Rossi (talk) 23:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(The hole is in the sole, yes?) As an experiment, try putting two or three layers of tape on the inside, and be generous about it. Water will still come through the hole; the goal now is to keep it from spreading past that point. -- Danh 63.226.145.214 (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking bicycle repair technology - a vulcanizing glue. But only somewhat idly. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

moon phase and wikipedia

Does the phase of the moon affect the quality of questions posted on the wikipedia reference desk? oooh ps I currently live on Earth so am referring to that planet's moon 125.237.89.27 (talk) 11:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, its a full moon now [2] and your post is a little stange. Quality wise I'd rate it a 4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.74.154 (talk) 13:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No I don’t think so, sense the moons gravitational pull on the earth has no effect on human behavior it is unlikely it will affect the quality of peoples questions posted on the wikipedia reference desk.--Fang 23 (talk) 17:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it doesn't have an effect, but I've noticed that my mood follows the moon's phases so exactly that it's quite uncanny. 206.252.74.48 (talk) 18:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

see hold ya breath question 2 q's below —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 14:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That probably has little to do with the phase of the moon, and more to do with David Blaine's plan to set the world record for holding his breath. -- Coneslayer (talk) 18:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 AAAAA-RRoooooooooooooooohhhhotclaws 07:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My mood seems to follow the moon too, in that I have more noticable mood swings around the time of the new and full moons. Which may explain why I'm bothering to type this now. And the phases of the moon affects the behaviour of lots of animals and even some plants, even stuff at the bottom of oceans where they can't see the moon.HS7 (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some years ago (mid-nineties) I read an academic study relating acute psychiatric admissions with phases of the moon; too long ago to remember the authors, and quite possibly discounted now, but fascintaing. The researchers concluded that acute admissions rose slightly during a full moon – a conclusion which is supported by anecdotal evidence from various health professionals I've worked with. Gwinva (talk) 19:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I use to work in a local Emergency Room, and it did seem to me that full moons brought out the oddballs. Of course it could just have been me expecting it. That full moon thing is one of the many superstitions that people who work in hospitals tend to believe.SunshineStateOfMind (talk) 15:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any site with a grand collection of world spanning "notebook" articles

You know the type of article that appears in good newspapers. An article that doesn't cover news but introduces an interesting place or culture. like this one I'm keen on seeing the world and I like reading these articles to get travel ideas. Is there any website that collects these kinds of articles? Thanks for your help.

Lotsofissues 12:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Try National Geographic: [3]. StuRat (talk) 01:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hold ya breath

What techniques exist that enable a person to increase the length of time in which they are able to hold their breath for. Can any of them be done at home while watching television? Links would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.74.154 (talk) 13:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might like to read up on Free-diving#Training. (You are not advised to try this without medical supervision.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Practice might help. Generally, the more you do something the more you adapt to make it easier for you to do it. Also, stop smoking, obviously, and if you have anaemia, do something about that too, since it reduces the flow of oxygen to your brain, which makes holding your breath difficult.HS7 (talk) 19:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hyperventilating? Boomshanka (talk) 21:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really bad idea (as I think the linked article explains, but you might have to read between the lines. Hyperventilation reduces the CO2 in your blood, and therefore increases the time you can go without feeling the urgency to breathe. What it doesn't increase, to any significant degree, is the length of time you can go without breathing (or passing out). So you just might be able to hold your breath until you pass out. If you pass out underwater.... --Trovatore (talk) 06:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's a large article in today's Science Times section in the New York Times on David Blaine, which is all about this. Check it out, it's pretty interesting. --98.217.8.46 (talk) 00:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Faraday experimented with poisonous gases in the 19th century, and wrote an article saying that on several occasions he had been able to rescue persons who had passed out from asphyxiating fumes by taking a number of deep breaths before dashing into the lab and dragging the person out. to fresh air where they recovered. Going in and breathing the non-life supporting air is clearly a losing proposition and would only add to the body count. We at Wikipedia certainly cannot advise such a rash course of behaviour, and calling emergency personnel who will don respirators with airtanks before going in to remove the corpse is probably a more prudent course of action. Edison (talk) 06:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if it applies to you, but giving up smoking probably helps loads. Michael Clarke, Esq. (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Romance Standard Time

The article Central European Time includes the note "redirected from Romance Standard Time".

Why?

Is this an actual alternate name for the time zone, or just a quirk of Wikipedia? Thanks. Wanderer57 (talk) 14:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Googling for "Romance Standard Time" returns lots of links, many of which show it is UTC+1:00. I couldn't find a reason for that name though. Perhaps analogous to Romance languages? --LarryMac | Talk 14:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's because all the British women say, "Not right now, dear, maybe later." --Milkbreath (talk) 14:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep your stereotypes to yourself, mate. Britain isn't even on Central European Time anyway. Malcolm XIV (talk) 15:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right. That's why it's always +1. (That was a joke, by the way. If I'd been stereotyping, I'd have waited for a question about spanking and the men would have been the butt.) --Milkbreath (talk) 16:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It will only say that if you arrived there having typed or clicked a link leading to Romance Standard Time. Perhaps if you told us why you typed that, or where you found the link, we could help. 79.66.99.37 (talk) 15:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, given the link I just wrote appears to be the only link in Wikipedia leading to that page, I must conclude that you typed Romance Standard Time in the search bar. Why? Judging by the earliest forms of the article, before it was a redirect, the person who created thought it was linked to Romance languages. The only references they provided that actually seemed to use the term were lists of Microsoft timezones, so maybe it's a creation of Microsoft. These lists consider it a timezone covering Madrid and Paris, among others. 79.66.99.37 (talk) 15:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the history of Romance Standard Time suggests that it is a term used in some places [4] and that the page was redirected later to the previously existing article. -- Flyguy649 ^talk 15:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all for the inputs. I found the term "Romance Standard Time" today while looking through my watchlist and following related links. I went to the page out of curiousity. Unfortunately I can't recall where it occurred. (I just found this UTC+1, which uses the term, but not as a link.) Wanderer57 (talk) 16:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So it's just a random Microsoft thing? Weird. Skittle (talk) 20:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was redirected here by a google search for "Romance Standard Time", and I found it in the VCALENDAR Entry produced by Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 (as written also in the same file, send via e-Mail to my account). The sender is known to me, and is a Outlook/Exchange Business User, inviting me to a meeting. So I guess this is a Microsoft Invention of a VTIMEZONE (as defined in vcal 1.0) that has daylight saving time starting on the 1st of January of 1601. This is my reading of the file send to me. (Matthias Š. 18. April 2013)

M'alaya

In your article M'alaya, where can I find videos of this dance, besides youtube and dailymotion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.20 (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot locate the article you speak of, do you mean this: Malaya (film)? Adam (Manors) 15:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I mean the article "m'alayah".

Pumpkin Seed Fish

How do you skin a Pumpkin Seed Fish or a blue gill fish?--76.28.67.224 (talk) 15:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you do skin them. When I used to fish for bluegill as a lad, we'd just remove the scales with a fish scaler (there are many types; this sort of thing is about the simplest), gut them, chop off their heads, and drop them into a sizzling pan. Deor (talk) 16:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the usual technique with Blue Gills was to fillet them. That is, you take a thin, flexible knife (called a fillet knife, oddly enough :) and remove the meat with the skin still attached from the bones. Then you place the fish fillet skin side down on a cutting board or other suitable flat surface, and use the fillet knife to cut the meat away from the skin and scales. Of course, this takes a bit of skill/practice to maximize the amount of meat you recover. -- 128.104.112.85 (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or grill them, then the shin lifts right off(and can be fed to happy cats) hotclaws 07:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Start a business

Where can I find a template to show me how to create a business plan. I wish to start a company with some friends, but we want to do it legitimatly, legally, and proffesionally as we are expecting to make ALOT of money. what sort of contracts to we need? do we need to inform any government body? how will we pay taxes? any relavent info would be appreciated. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speak to a solicitor and an accountant.--Artjo (talk) 16:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, but in the mean time, where can I find a template for a business plan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 16:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Surely Google can locate several thousand for you. Even Microsoft Word may have one in its templates, whether installed or available from Microsoft.

Atlant (talk) 17:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's also probably worthwhile to go to your local public library. There are scads of books on "How to Start Your Own Small Business" (some better than others, though don't ask me which are which) they should get you started roughly, though as mentioned previously, there is no substituting speaking with a licensed professional attorney or accountant with experience in small business. Good Luck. -- 128.104.112.85 (talk) 19:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You'll probably have a business advisory service in your area who can supply you with a template as well as offer lots of other support. Speak to your business bank manager and (s)he should be able to direct you to your nearest regional office. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.28.152 (talk) 10:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daughter of George Harrison?

> I was told George Harrison of the Beatles had a daughter named "Quandi" > (sp?) who sang "lead a Horse to Water" (with Jools Holland) in > "Concert for George". I can't find anything on line about this. Is it > true? If true, why no mention at all of her? Why was the song left off the CD? Thanks ever so----B.Beretta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.89.149.78 (talk) 17:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think your information may have been somewhat jumbled. George Harrison had a son Dhani, who, according to the article, played in the band for most of the Concert for George. The song Horse to the Water was written by George and Dhani, and during the concert was sung by Sam Brown while Jools Holland played keyboards. Presumably, Dhani would have been playing in the backing band during that performance. --LarryMac | Talk 17:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linked Sam and Jools in LarryMac's response. --hydnjo talk 02:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

enh, they were linked in both the concert article and the song article, which are arguably more germane links to follow --LarryMac | Talk 13:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Sex

When you ejaculate inside a woman is she happy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.18.144 (talk) 22:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If she on the pill, you dnt have a broken condom, or your trying to get pregent id assume yes. БοņёŠɓɤĭĠ₳₯є 22:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article Semen: "Research has demonstrated that semen may have anti-depressant properties." --D. Monack | talk 23:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Awkward question. Nicely stated, but still awkward. flaming lawyer^c 01:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To achieve that effect does it need to be taken orally or vaginally? --antilived^{T | C | G} 10:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The simple answer....I hope yes. If she isn't happy then there is something done wrong.Cardinal Raven (talk) 02:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven[reply]

Since you expressed the question personally, yes, when I ejaculate inside a woman she is happy, and this is why. However, most people are very good at communicating whether or not they are happy, so I am not sure why you are asking me.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The question was expressed perfectly appropriately. See generic you. -Elmer Clark (talk) 01:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]