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October 31

Translating npc chatter from AC Odyssey

Greek. Sounds like:

"ALOKOTON TAMALA."
"E! IGIGNETE!"
"OPTALMINO VOSSEVUSSI"
"PAFSON TUTU?"
"PAFSE!"
"DEVRONEXO! PROSSO!"
"UKETI!"
SINELFE, SINELFE!"

2A0D:6FC0:E95:CA00:3C00:EDC6:C79E:5A34 (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's Assassin's Creed Odyssey, to clarify. So these are presumably Ancient Greek. Perhaps even specifically Attic and Doric varieties. Card Zero (talk) 08:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I only recognize "uketi", which is οὐκέτι, "no more, no longer". "pafse" may be παύσε (in a more modern pronunciation), i.e. "Stop!". "pafson tutu" is the same verb, but unclear which grammatical form. Maybe first person singular, the "s" indicates a future tense (or one of the tenses/moods/aspects that I haven't learned yet), παύσω τούτου, "shall I stop this?" (although τούτου is genitive, and accusative τοῦτον/τοῦτο might make more sense)? --Wrongfilter (talk) 08:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had a vague idea that "DEVRONEXO! PROSSO!" might be something like thunder upon!, but in this I'm just grabbing at the first vaguely similar words I see and guessing. Card Zero (talk) 09:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess "Optalmino" could be some dual inflected form of "Ophtalmos" (eye). If this is based on phonetical approximation from an outside perspective, I guess errors in transcription is likely, though. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 12:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Attic pronunciation of ὀφθαλμός was /opʰ.tʰal.mós/, with aspirated stops. --Lambiam 13:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

”SINELFE” could be “σῠ́νελθε” from wikt:συνέρχομαι. —Amble (talk) 15:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

”E! IGIGNETE!” could be "εἰ γίγνεται”, “if it happens”? —Amble (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Might this be an example of Minionese: that is, something deliberately meant to suggest some form of ancient Greek without being actually meaningful? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.86.81 (talk) 19:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not likely. The other AC games keep to meaningful chatter - OP 2A0D:6FC0:E95:CA00:1989:7FB0:ABB4:1B53 (talk) 21:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"DEVRONEXO!" must be "el:wikt:δεῦρο ἔξω", "come out!". This phrase appears in the story of the raising of Lazarus in John 11. —Amble (talk) 21:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"PROSSO": wikt:πρόσω, also wikt:πρόσσω, “forward”. —Amble (talk) 02:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"ALOKOTON TAMALA": see el:wikt:ἀλλόκοτος, el:wikt:τα μάλα, "rather strange." --Amble (talk) 21:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managed to make a recording of "Ophtalmino vessevussi" and "e! igignete!" here. Thank all! OP 2A0D:6FC0:E95:CA00:4054:7CE6:A04D:4932 (talk) 19:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hear "[i ofθalmi mu pesevusi]", i.e. "οι οφθαλμοί μου [πεσσ?]εύουσι" – "my eyes are [...?]ing" - the words for "my eyes" are very clear and the ending must be that of 3rd person plural present indicative verb, but I'm not sure what that verb is – there is a verb "πεσσεύω", meaning "to play at draughts", but that doesn't seem to make much sense. In the second phrase, I hear "[e, ti jirnete]", which would be "ε, τί γυρνετε" (or "γυρνεται", or "γείρνετε" or "γείρνεται") – again, I'm not sure what exact verb form this is supposed to be. Note that all of this is (pseudo-?)Ancient Greek as pronounced by a Modern Greek speaker (as is customary in Greece); the speaker sounds like a native Greek speaker. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - OP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0D:6FC0:E95:400:B171:81DE:16B6:4B70 (talk) 13:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]