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November 5

Mystery photo

Who is in the photograph in the background of this picture of Edward Heath? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After searching through many images, the nearest resemblance I have found so far is Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan. Sheikh Zayed normally wore a pure white headdress (ghutra), but in the main image here he is wearing a chequered one (keffiyeh) (and the resemblance to the photo is most noticeable IMO). According to this article, Sheikh Zayed met Heath during Heath's first year as PM. However, the photo behind Heath is a small image and not easy to discern distinguishing features, so this might all be way off target. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:41, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Obviously Ted's second favourite Arabian heart-throb after Peter O'Toole as "Big Lol"~~ His first year in office was just at the time that the United Arab Emirates was being formed and Heath could not afford to lose the constituent nations as friends of the UK. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:03, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've not seen any pictures of Sheikh Zayed with his beard shewing the white streaks we see in the photo, it also looks too full - he seems to have kept his trimmed. To me it looks like an Orthodox priest - at first I wondered if it was Makarios but I don't think it is. DuncanHill (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More by luck than skill, it turns out to be Said bin Taimur, the 13th Sultan of Muscat and Oman. The same photograph is here. At the time that Heath came to office, we were fighting one of our post-colonial "small wars" on his behalf, the Dhofar Rebellion, which was eventually won. He popped-up on Google while I was actually looking for Qaboos bin Said, who is a bit handier with the beard-trimmer. Alansplodge (talk) 23:04, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How many people died imprisoned by Nazi Germany?

The Nazi concentration camps article mentions: "More than 1,000 concentration camps (including subcamps) were established during the history of Nazi Germany and around 1.65 million people were registered prisoners in the camps at one point. Around a million died during their imprisonment."

I assume this is no holocaust denial, just the way WP does the numbers.

The Extermination camp article add an "estimated total number of people who were murdered in the six Nazi extermination camps is 2.7 million".

Including every type of camp, no matter how they called them, how many died while being Nazi prisoners?

Wouldn't these articles benefit from a total sum of deaths for readers who are just taking a fast look at them? Types of Nazi camps could also benefit from a column with numbers, couldn't it? --Bumptump (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bumptump: If you have suggestions to improve an article, start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking for sources/clarification. These could lead to an improvement of a handful of articles.Bumptump (talk) 18:46, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

legislative seniority

Let's say legislator (any level, but this is in the US) Fixy McFixture has been around forever, has lots of seniority in different committees etc., but gets unexpectedly voted out of office by an upstart. If Fixy runs again next term and gets elected back to the legislature, is it generally the case that they get their previous seniority back? Or do they start again at the beginning? Question immediately inspired by that guy who bumped out the president of the NY State Senate, but I had wondered about it on earlier occasions as well. Thanks. 2601:648:8202:350:0:0:0:D4A (talk) 19:39, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Similar question asked at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2020 April 30. For state legislatures, the rules could differ from state to state. AnonMoos (talk) 01:07, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that helped. 2601:648:8202:350:0:0:0:D4A (talk) 03:35, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]