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What would have the bedroom of Queen Mariam Tsitsishvili of Georgia's bedroom look like? The picture in the article depicts a more Persian/Eastern influenced setting with cushions while this documentary clip (www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5lzOotHNSQ) made by Georgians shows a more Western setting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Emperor's New Spy (talk • contribs) 02:42, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The Georgian Lovers". 1797. E. Newbery's illustration of William Mavor's rendition of "Travels of Sir John Chardin." The picture in the article is from 42 years later; the video is inaccurate in that it shows a cold-blooded stabbing whereas sources say it happened in the heat of the moment when a soldier grabbed her foot. I don't know how you evaluate what is correct.
It's hard to find contemporary artworks that show interiors. Looking in the commons category History of Georgia, I found her father-in-law with a small table and her father-in-laws' throne. The picture to the right here (The Georgian Lovers) is a 1797 drawing (so contemporary), but the artist is English and basing it on someone else's description, so I don't know if it's accurate either.
...il y a 330 années, à la demande du roi Charles II d’Espagne, le pape Innocent XI proclamait saint Joseph patron de la Belgique, donc bien avant l’indépendance du pays en 1830.
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But did a concept of Belgium exist at all before 1830? Would it not be patron of the Netherlands or the Spanish Netherlands, or patron of Brabant, Flanders, Hainaut etc?
I'd love to see a source for any of this, but it looks from that as though the Spanish Netherlands were intended - seeing as it was Carlos II who made the request. AlexTiefling (talk) 10:39, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The United States of Belgium was a short-lived state formed when the Southern Netherlands revolted against Austrian rule. (And if the Southern Netherlands article is correct, the Latin term for the Austrian Netherlands was Belgium Austriacum). The term Belgium clearly had some traction prior to 1830. Valiantis (talk) 21:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How odd - I took my Latin from the Belgium article. Perhaps it changed over time. The Latin name comes from the Belgae, a group of tribes that lived in the low countries and also invaded the south coast of England. Alansplodge (talk) 21:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was obsessed with him for a while, now his name escapes me - he was a concert violinist, in Austria, maybe - he went a bit funny - got messages from god about the creatures that populate the solar system - among the animals on Jupiter, I remember, were elephants with big pyramidal feet that stamped down the earth prior to the natives making roads...
Britain has several criminal law jurisdictions. Insanity in English law explains the legal position in England and Wales. I am pretty sure that "criminally insane" would still be accurately understood by English lawyers, but not sure if there is a now a more fashionable term for the same concept. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 11:19, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why am I unable to find more about this on the internet? If true, I would expect something like this to generate much more interest.
Why is this the Queen of Denmark's business? The islands were part of the Kingdom of Norway. If anyone, her cousin the King of Norway should claim them.
Perhaps you should take another look at that article. Especially the name of its author. (Hint: try reading the name out loud). --Dweller (talk) 13:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I thought, too strange to be true, though the supposed comment by David Starkey was enough for me not to dismiss it right away. Well, while we're at it, has it occurred to anyone to pay the dowry and claim the islands back? Surtsicna (talk) 14:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that the story is a complete fabrication, including the comments by David Starkey, perhaps to put the cause of Scottish independence in a bad light (judging from the website it was posted on). There is nothing mentioned about this in Danish media anywhere, and believe me, it would have been a big story here if such a claim had ever been made by Queen Margrethe. Edit: I am no native English speaker, and even less fluent in Scottish, so what exactly is the name of the author supposed to mean when reading it out loud? "I laugh ..." something? --Saddhiyama (talk) 14:10, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not a native speaker and could not understand what the last name should sound like either. When Dweller suggested that I pay attention to the name of the author, I first thought Ilaf sounded somewhat Scandinavian (probably due to similarity to Olaf) - and then I pronounced it. Anyway, it would certainly be quite inappropriate for a constitutional monarch to make such a claim, but has anyone (whether in Norway, Denmark or in the UK) recently proposed paying the dowry in order to claim the islands? Surtsicna (talk) 14:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"I laugh my head off" - 'my' = 'ma', 'head' = 'heed' in Scottish English. There is another down below - 'Gerritupyeson' = 'get it up you, son' (doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to work out what this means!) KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK)14:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've heard it suggested, informally and partly in jest, that if Scotland becomes independent, Orcadians and Shetlanders might in turn secede, and consider rejoining Norway. As far as I know, no-one of any standing has made such a suggestion, though. Denmark, of course, does not feature. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd just like to comment on why it might be Denmark, rather than Norway, that the islands returned to. (Granted that the story is fake, it might not have relevance, but it does refer to enough historical documents to make this interesting.) The reason is the Kalmar Union, as mentioned in the article: Before the Kalmar Union, Norway governed also Iceland and Greenland, but as Norway was given to Sweden and then gained independence, Norway's 'dependent territories' remained under Danish rule. This could be why, if such a historic document were to exist, Denmark would be modern-day country benefitting, and not Norway.
What I reacted most to, is the use of the currency 'kroner', which didn't come into existence till the 19th century. A 16th century document would have referred to a different currency. V85 (talk) 15:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
about find the originals of an old book Mentioned in Wikipedia
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